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Carson Criticised in HK Press for Selling BIHL Shares

Less than a month after telling reporters post-EGM that he wouldn’t sell his shares in BIHL, Carson Yeung has been criticised in the HK economic press for doing just that.

Hong Kong Economic Journal has a piece this morning talking about recent filings made to the stock exchange which show Carson has reduced his shareholding, despite the former Blues president telling reporters after the EGM held on February 5 that he would buy more. The newspaper has gone on to comment that the Judge was right in branding Carson a liar.

Carson, who is on remand at Lai Chi Kok Reception Centre whilst awaiting his sentence having been convicted on five counts of money laundering on Monday was busy in the weeks before his conviction selling his shares in the company. Carson is due to be sentenced tomorrow and I’m told is expecting to be given five to seven years in prison. The maximum sentence that a District Court can give is seven years and a HK$5million fine.

I will admit that his share dealings are confusing. From what I can understand, he has taken a short position on 188,892,000 shares, and then has converted the same number of shares from the debt conversion bond he was given in return for cancelling his loan, which had been novated from BCFC and assumed by BIH. Carson has sold those shares at market prices having converted them at HK$0.03 (as per the announcement), making a profit of roughly HK$37.5million (approx £2.9million).Whether he has access to that profit or if it has been restrained as per the restraining order upon his assets I don’t know – I would assume if it comes down to his loan to BCFC being included in the order; I have been told in the past that it is but in the copy I have I cannot see it.

His stake in the club now resides at either 16.2% or 12.6%, depending on which filing you look at; I will also admit I’m a bit bewildered as to which is accurate but I believe it’s the lower figure.

Whether this means he is looking to sell out of the club or BIH I do not know. It was my understanding that he was happy to retain his shareholding but that may well have changed.

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121 Responses to “Carson Criticised in HK Press for Selling BIHL Shares”

  • james says:

    Has there been any more news on the potential buyer of shares from
    The media company in Beijing? I live in Beijing and the people
    I have spoken too have never heard of the company. This could just
    Be down to that it is in pinyin rather than characters and my limited Chinese!

    I have a feeling this saga now has the potential to drag on almost indefinately.

    Who wpuld have thought wembley was over 3 years ago.

  • BhamCityJulian says:

    Maybe he sold the shares to mend the funds to that media company?

  • bluenose 11 says:

    a i understand it im sure i read on here somewhere that the media company is owned by a relative of carsons (or did i dream that ) if so is it possible that carson has sold shares to prop oup the buying of shares in bcfc through the media company effectivly raising his stake in bcfc and adding another 2 directors to the board of his choosing giving himself more say please feel free to delete if you consider liableous as i am only asking if this s a possibiliy not impying its happened

  • james says:

    Convicted money launder loses 4 percent of his shares…

    Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between the
    Shares that were issued, carsons losses on his loan and the
    New investors stake…

    You also mention he shorted his position at .03 per share. Which
    If i remember when relisted they went to 0.01 per share. Depending
    On what leverage he placed on this trade could be a very tidy profit…
    Aka ‘new investment’ in a holding or new company retaining his initial
    Percentage stake.

    Obviously this is just a conspiracy theory…

  • Cyprus Blue says:

    I dont understand the sale of shares. I thought his assets were frozen, and even though I worked as a stockbroker for many years, I dont understand the way the HKSE announce. I think he may not have sold shares, especially at that price. I think it is just to do with capital reconstruction.

  • Cyprus Blue says:

    One other point here. Maximum time he could serve is 7 years, so he may get less. If the time he has been effectively under house arrest in HK, he may not serve any time at all (based on the 50% rule that exists in the UK) Just an observation, not sure how it all works there

    • almajir says:

      Cyprus Blue

      He’s not been under “house arrest” – how many times did I tell people on here he was on bail? He’ll get five to seven years – and rules are different here to the UK so don’t rely on those for guidelines.

  • Pete says:

    Is there not a non violent but assertive message fans could give by doing something in Yeung and Pannu’s parking spaces at the club? I would imagine we will have more media attention than normal on Saturday and whether it be a protest in the car park or some kind of dumping process clearly by their names on the car parking spaces it would send a very clear message.

    • almajir says:

      The carparking spaces are on private land and it would be a criminal offence mate. Don’t want to encourage that

      • Pete says:

        I am not saying to create violent scenes or to do anything illegal, but fans could protect there and then be moved on if requested. It is a great image to go back to Hong Kong surely. I think anything and everything that can be done this weekend is crucial to give messages to the new owners who keep buying shares whoever the hell they are…

    • Agent McLeish says:

      Oh no, not another car park protest idea. Guys, whoever has the car park fetish I have to tell you that it will be a waste of time. Someone will suggest we protest in the club toilets next. Any protest needs to be directed to the correct people and based on fact. An example would be the Football league for clear infringements of regulations. I also suspect that the HKSE should and need to look closely at the recent share dealings.

  • Anthony says:

    I think it’s time for a proper protest,get these out once an for all.why won’t they just sell they’ve got no so sell an let us rock on.delay no more

  • Anthony says:

    Paladini let’s get this guy in.

  • Jaffa says:

    Well done Dan.Excellent work yet again.We can only hope that pressure will finally make Carson sell up.

  • Anthony says:

    How do you think blues is worth?

    • chris says:

      £15 million
      They quoted £30 miil couple of weeks ago when the share price was about $hk 0.38 now yesterday it was $hk0.19 so half of what it was

  • mark says:

    So a person cannot change his mind……

  • andy says:

    Mr Pannu has tried to talk Carson into selling the club to a British based buyer but he decided against that and hoped to sell to people in China hoping to get his asking price. If Carson does sell out of the club then maybe Pannu will push through a sale to Paladini.

  • rhees says:

    Great work again Dan ” your the man”
    im not an academic but i can see the whole thing is doggy
    to say the least.
    I am hoping that selling his shares is a prelude to the club being
    sold.
    pp keeps stating he is in negotiations and trying to sell up i just hope
    this is the truth.
    as out the frying pan into the fire with pallidini i don’t know but id welcome
    him at the moment for some relief and hope if nothing else.

  • Gerry says:

    I can understand the concerns about Paladini after what happened at QPR, but surely even Ken Wheldon would be better than this lot who are running the show at the moment, I believe Paladini would have learnt from his experience at QPR and everyone seems to think that his old foes Briatore/Ecclestone would be involved, also peoples judgement on Paladini is based on a TV documentary, which was played out under the spotlight of TV cameras, Peter Pannu is constantly banging on about potential British buyers, investment from China etc, but can we actually believe anything that comes out of his mouth, I just want a club to support and i dont care if we cant compete with the likes of Chelsea/ Man C or even to the point Villa, having supported Blues for over 50 years now i am used to living in their shadow, so what would another few years matter ? yes being successful was a great feeling in 2011 but look at whats happened since, its been a blooming nightmare, no-one knows that if the present situation carries on will we be able to keep running as a football club, the League will only stand so much, as i have said before i have genuine concerns about whether this club will continue after the last parachute payment is paid up, i would rather us be run by someone that will keep us in the football league and have a team to follow more than a multi million pound owner who wont give a stuff.

  • BhamCityJulian says:

    I still wouldn’t swap the Carling Cup win and 9th for this. The catalyst for these was the optimism and feel-good from the CY regime. It wouldn’t have happened under GSG and if they’d sold to someone else if they’d have been more businesslike perhaps they couldn’t have done it either

    When you talk about swapping ask yourself when did you hear the chant “f&ck all. You’ve never won f&ck all”. Exactly.

  • BhamCityJulian says:

    When you talk about swapping ask yourself when did you last hear the chant “f&ck all. You’ve never won f&ck all”. Exactly.

  • sappy sad says:

    paladini is a man who makes money out of his hard efforts
    to get success …i have no complaint against that as that is
    democracy …do we want prem football ..do we want success
    …bring it on PAL….kro

  • Gerry says:

    I would not swap that Carling Cup win for anything either, it was probably my best moment ever supporting the club and probably wont ever happen again in my lifetime, what i would say is what has happened since as been horrendous and despite that cup win we are still the butt of jokes from witton because of the off field problems, so the chants before did not bother me as growing up i forever had their history book thrown at me, under this lot we are a dying club thats obvious to a blind man, we are in the most perilous position in our history and thats down to the dirty dealings of a convicted criminal and his playmates, just give me a club to follow thats all i ask, who cares about premier league football in all honesty, its a showcase for 5 or 6 clubs, all the other teams in that division are just there to make up numbers and wont even get close to competing at the top end unless billions are spent as man c and chelsea have done, no one is saying we cant have them ambitions and hope one day to compete, but like i say the only thing that i can see is a spin off team for us like AFC Wimbledon, FC united of Manchester, and days out with trips to Tamworth, Workington etc, this regime we have have to be rooted out ASAP, I give us another 3 years max before we are defunct if these people are still in charge

  • DoctorD says:

    Dan — in that link you gave for the Lai Chi Kok Reception Centre, it has lots of helpful information about visiting times, directions and so on. Why don’t you pop over and have a chat with CY — I imagine he’s feeling a bit lonely and would like to pour his heart out to you.

    Visiting Hours : 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (Monday to Friday)
    9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon (Saturday)
    (No visit on Saturday afternoon and public holidays)
    Bookings for official visit are taken up to one working day in advance.
    Visitors are advised to arrive 30 minutes in advance for registration, but not earlier than 9:00 a.m.
    Those without booking must be registered 60 minutes prior to the end of the visiting hours.

    • DoctorD says:

      Actually those times are for “official visit” — you might just want to make a “social visit”:

      Social Visit
      1) Remands (for types (a), (b), (c), (d) & (g) above):
      Visiting Hours : 8:30 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.
      2) Prisoners or Appellants (for types (e) & (f) above):
      Visiting Hours 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.
      (No visit to Prisoners or Appellants on Monday & Wednesday afternoons, except public holidays)

  • jack1 says:

    Dan, Still no announcement on the MOU on the HKSE. Also as mentioned before another question for PP and the FL is: was there a breach of FL rule 16.12.7? It looks as though based on the FL rule 16.11 interim accounts were required to be submitted to the FL. The group interim accounts to 31 Dec 2014 were not reviewed or audited by auditors; if the BC plc interim accounts (the subsidiary) were not reviewed or audited either it appears there could be a breach of rule 16.12.7. The group interims were reviewed by the audit committee (4 non-exec directors of BIHL). If the group accounts had been reviewed or audited such fact is generally included in the announcement. We do not know if BC Plc or BIHL had some sort of private review by the auditor so it is a question for the board and the FL. Note such reviews in any case are limited in scope but offers some comfort and rule 16.12.7 is not clear on who must conduct the review but outside the FL world it is generally expected the auditor does such reviews (e.g. for UK listed companies). Rule 16.13 suggests the interims review or audit is required to be done by an auditor and indeed provide an audit opinion/review statement. The BIHL annual accounts were of course qualified for going concern uncertainty and limitation of scope and the interim group accounts are issued with a material uncertainty statement by the board as to going concern. Note also these interims are clearly significant given the transactions with CY disclosed in them accounts (BIHL group accounts announced on HKSE on 28 Feb 2014)

    • Gerry says:

      Cant see there being a reply, seems to me that this is another attempt by CY to keep his hands in on all fronts, the whole regime is a joke, i would never believe another word that comes out of BIHL, the only time i will believe them again is when they announce we have been sold and the new owners are in the boardroom

  • jack1 says:

    Sorry group interim accounts to 31 Dec 2013 of course I meant previously not 31 Dec 2014

  • Mineheadblue says:

    I’m probably missing the point (I often do) but this sounds like it good be good news in reducing his stranglehold on the club and making it easier to be sold. KRO

  • parchy99 says:

    Dan,

    have you any news on the flag that we bunged in for?

    Did we reach the 3500?

    And if so is it ready?

    Hope so just to keep up the pressure. Nice to see some bluenose unity about instead of the bitching and moaning as usual.

  • dave mann says:

    cant wait to see carson go to his cell tommorow morning and hopefully get the 7 years
    he deserves and propably end up serving 4 years for good behavior, should be good
    atmosphere against qpr and plenty of protests and singing which will make a change
    at st andrews.
    PS, what time is the sentence due Daniel ? KRO & DNM.

  • Mineheadblue says:

    Last week, on the anniversary of our win at Wembley, my son sent me a text saying ‘we won the cup 3 years ago today, I will never forget that day with you’. He’s 22 and I’m 63, we both went and it was one of the best days of my life. I too will never forget it and I doubt I will ever have another day like it. KRO

  • jack1 says:

    Dan/Trust: If you want to send a letter to FL here’s the draft:

    Clarification of FL rules 16.12.7

    Regarding Birmingham City, could you clarify FL rule 16.12.7. It looks as though based on Football League (FL) rule 16.11, Birmingham City’s group (Birmingham International Holdings Limited) or club interim accounts to 31 Dec 2013 were required to be submitted to the FL. If interim accounts were submitted to you could you confirm if the group or club interim accounts to 31 Dec 2013 were reviewed or audited by auditors . The group interims announced on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange were reviewed by the audit committee (4 non-exec directors of BIHL). If the group accounts had been reviewed or audited such fact is generally included in the announcement. It is not clear if the club or group had some sort of private review by the auditor. Your rule 16.12.7 is not clear on who must conduct the review but it is generally expected the auditor does such reviews (e.g. for UK listed companies). Rule 16.13 suggests the interims review or audit is required to be done by an auditor and indeed provide an audit opinion/review statement. The group annual accounts were of course qualified for going concern uncertainty and limitation of scope and the interim group accounts were issued with a material uncertainty statement by the board as to going concern.

  • Dave says:

    Lai Chi Kok Reception Centre? Sounds quite nice, but probably isn’t

  • AissieBlue says:

    Mates, we can all get bogged down in all this shite that’s happening. But let’s all remember, as Blues fans, the true meaning of our song. No other club could ever have put up with what we have. Here goes ( and, strangely, this is for Carson too):

    Every road through life is a long, long road .
    Filled with joys and sorrows too
    As you journey on how your heart will yearn
    For the things most dear to you
    With wealth and love ‘it’s so
    But onward we must go

    Chorus

    Keep right on to the end of the road
    Keep right on to the end
    Though the way be long, let your heart be strong
    Keep right on to the end

    Though you’re tired and weary still journey on,
    Till you come to your happy abode
    Where all you love, you’ve been dreaming of
    Will be there, at the end of the road

    With a big stout heart to a long steep hill
    We may get there with a smile
    With a good kind thought and a mile end view
    We may cut short many a mile

    So let courage every day
    Be your guiding star always

    • phillip says:

      Aussieblue
      i prefer the Off To Partizan version as modified for our first journey into Europe !!

      • Steve Aerobic says:

        It’s actually “oft too partisan” and is in the original song…not modified for Europe, where on earth did you get that from!?

        • phillip says:

          steve
          opinions vary as to where, but When singing it on the Tilton as part of 40/50 thousand Blues fans in the ground I,m sure my version is correct, others opinions difer, right or wrong I prefer my version to Sir Harry Lauders,,,,,if you care to go to “Youtube” and check out some of the Blues clips on there you can make up your own mind which is correct

          • phillip says:

            p.s Steve
            I was there when we adopted the song as ours in 1956, sang it during the “Inter City Trade Fairs Cup” run when we reached the final and semi finals, sang it when we were beaten by tomorrows opponenents in the League Cup, when we won our first “Tin Pot” home and away, now due to age ,ill health and finnance, iI,m just one of the arm chair warrior brigade derided by some as stay away fans who dont support the team

          • Steve Aerobic says:

            Hi Phillip, you are a bit prior to me but I do remember the FA Cup semi off 68 and the QPR Semi someyears earlier in the league cup (we lost the home leg 4-1!). Either way it’s a magnificent anthem and easily recognised as ours (unlike you’ll never walk alone). When sung in full cry it makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck! So sorry that you can’t get down there anymore but it makes you no less a fan. I still go down and love it when the anthem rings out.

        • almajir says:

          No it’s not Steve

          • Steve Aerobic says:

            Dan, I’m sure that the original line is “oft too partisan” since modernised to “often partisan”. I stand to be corrected as I’m sure that you will have researched it prior to naming your blog. Either way it’s a great anthem.

  • dave mann says:

    so the wait goes on and on and an ajournement is on the cards for reports……absoluetly
    fantastic, couldent be better, great news, the pain worsens day by day, the nightmare
    continues….will this man and those cronies of his ever go away….it looks like there
    bedding in to put BCFC to sleep for good…thanks for that carson, your always be
    welcome back to st andrews with open arms…TO STRANGLE YOU!!!!! DNM & KRO.

  • sappy sad says:

    who ever buys brum we must insist that the future owners.
    pay for thousands of bluenoses to be made so we can all
    celebrate a BLUE NOSE DAY

  • Peter bates says:

    The press in hong kong and anywhere else only had to see the first press conference at st andrews given by cy to know he lies now its proven in a court of law they start to condemn him they also should listen to pp saying no firesale of players to realise he lies as well hope he gets maximum sentence and good riddance as for pannu delay no more you and all cys relatives go now your not wanted at st andrews kro

  • an olden says:

    Just what most of us wanted to get the chance to enquire if anything can be done to effect the
    position and voice the concerns to the bodies who control the game. As ever top class work . I seriously wonder what most us would done without the calm, balanced advice you have given
    throughout this terrible period in the clubs history. Put simply is-Thank you mate

  • Peter bates says:

    Dan the statement you made about an adjournment tomorrow sounds like you already know the outcome

  • AissieBlue says:

    Sappy, pardon my ignorance but what exactly are you saying mate?

  • dave mann says:

    i think sappys saying that if and when new owners take over that they should celebrate
    by giving out blue noses to all home fans at the first home game and calling it BLUE NOSE
    DAY to welcome in the new regime and to wash away the smell of the old one i would
    imagine, is that close enough sappy? AussieBlue does that make any sense ? DNM & KRO.

  • dave mann says:

    phillip, that would be 91 & 95 mate. KRO.

  • Paul Carter - The Voice of Reason he says:

    Any news on the oil and gas investment?

    Talking about oil it’s better than Dalllas this is

    Share dealing, invisible media company, must be a film in there somewhere?

  • Backoftheholt68 says:

    Aussieblue – great work on producing those great lyrics !!!!! also thank you Dan for your very infornative reports – unfortunately I like many otherscosider this only the begining of whats to come I am certain our great club will be dragged through the shit that the hong kong barber and his sweeper up have managed to create I really fear for the club as I see no way the barber will ( and maybe cannot ???? ) sell the club – would love to read of a billionare buying us but I think that all prospective buyers know how deep the shite is and will not touch it with a barge pole – I also remember stating on here over 18 months ago about a channel 4 programm Dispatches called want to buy a football club !!!! filmed in Bangkok with Bryan Robson the figurehead – we had Macmanaman remeber him ??????????????????????? sounds very similar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • DoctorD says:

    Not sure about all this vile hatred of Carson Yeung — yes he is slippery, yes he lied about his money laundering, yes he is ineffectual as a business person and yes I wish he wasn’t running the show, but I don’t see him entirely at fault for our current poor position in the league. He has simply not had the cash to bankroll us in buying players. People are basically saying “I hate you because you don’t have any money”. Look at Vincent Tan — he’s got loads of cash and people hate him too. Who’d be a football club owner? The solution lies in community ownership.

  • sappy sad says:

    aissie i feel that with the courts pressure on the buying of
    brum .the pressure from the press on his sale of shares
    the fans protesting …his prison sentence ..and his families
    annoyance at the facing of a investigation over the next two
    years .i feel the times they are a changing…kro

  • steve says:

    Dan,do you think he will appeal ?

  • mark says:

    sadly noted by Daniel which has rarely been a talking point Carson will come out with all guns blazing on Friday. Point also to note that this judge will make his decision probably on Friday. appeals and bails will only just be begun………if you thought the actual trial was exhausting you aint seen nothing yet imo….

  • mark says:

    imo i believe the judge will want to send a clear and precise message imo also he will hand out the maximum sentence to carson whether i believe this right or wrongly…………then it will be up to Carson to put his money where his mouth his and fight it all the way…………………………..

  • Paul Carter - The Voice of Reason he says:

    I believe Carson may start naming names to reduce his sentence.

  • mark says:

    As mentioned before that pp mentioned in the bm that he deserved his whopping salary i am in turn in agreement with him. We have no facts to say he not entitled to it………….he would have a contract of work like any one else, contract of employment, he would have a list of duties bound in contract……..

  • sappy sad says:

    spot on dave mann .thank god for this web site .we know
    what we want to say but then emotion and anger invades
    the mind and what we wanted to say often starts a fight in
    your head and you forget half of what is wanted to be said …
    kro

  • Chris W says:

    Thank you yet again for another excellent insight. The information has help to construct, what I think, is an excellent e-mail to the football league.
    Hopefully someone at their offices think so too and reply to the questions posed.
    looking forward to seeing the new flag unfurled at St Ans and what response the crowd have as they never fail with a novel song in such situations.
    I am also looking forward to events on the pitch and feel that we will end our barren win run against a quickly sinking Q.P.R.
    KRO+DNM

  • bluenoserob says:

    i will never forget wembley either , we were giving it everying all over the pitch , then those two clowns in red messed it up and suddenly the ball was rolling into the net , will never ever forget that moment for the rest of my life , next time i find my self upset by all this sh** that were are going thru IM just gonna remember that few seconds , KRO

  • Art Watson says:

    Me thinks PP will soon be jumping ship!

    Most rats do when the ship goes under!
    ,

  • paule says:

    Can’t wait to see the big protest flag,i want it to come over the Tilton & stop right above my head so i don’t have to witness the utter crap i have been watching most of the season.

  • mark says:

    Daniel some quarters have quoted that Carson could get 14 years imprisonment is this mis-leading???

  • Eddie says:

    six years,
    does that mean three years if good behavior and do you think he’ll keep the club for three years?

    • Gerry says:

      3 years ? the judicial system is not like that in other countries, and if he is still around in 3 years at st andrews, there wont be any football club for him to come back too, we will be resigned to the history books in the defunct section, time for a closure to another set of dodgy owners to grace the st andrews boardroom, this is the 3rd lot out of the last 4 owners that have had shoddy backgrounds, Wheldon(ok not dodgy but not that rich either) Kumars and now Yeung, at least with Sullivan and Golds we did compete in the transfer market, ok not as much as we would have liked but they did back every manager and kept the club on a steady chain

      • chas says:

        Gerry , why do you say the Kumars were dodgy ? Ypu are talking out of your backside. The Dodgy one was Wheldon, who sold off Elmdon and no-one ever found out where the money went. The touble with the Kumars in the eyes of a lot of our Fans was that they were Asians but the only trouble they had was for their Bank to go bust. That wasn’t anything to do with them personally.

  • dave mann says:

    absoluetly delighted, carson hit for six but maybe do three if he behaves himself and
    doesent launder for the triads while hes in his prison cell , lets see what tommorow
    brings but first things first , leave work today at 3 and have a few drinks to celebrate
    and give it some whelly saturday…fantastic news now carson should do the right
    thing and get himself and his cronnies out of our club. KRO& DNM

  • dave mann says:

    lets celebrate with three points against QPR and a total barage of singing and anger
    towards the board tommorow but in a calm and collective way if you know what i
    mean, lets let this pathetic football league know that they have to do something about
    this lot and do something…but as ive said before they propably wont because they
    did nothing for portsmouth and it aint gonna change this time. KRO & DNM.

  • Ray says:

    Maybe a pro Paladini flag might be in order at a home match soon. 86% of the fans are in favour of Paladini according to the Birmingham Mail. High profile such as that would surely help get the message to the club’s owners. Just an idea. KRO

  • dave mann says:

    anything to get rid of this lot will do nicely Ray, its a thought and he surely cant be any worse
    than what weve got now, hes local and his kids are blues fans so lets go for it. KRO.

  • bluenose08 says:

    you are forgetting palladini and pannu just don’t get on and it seems to me any sale has to go through pannu so as much as I would like it to happen I just don’t think it will. kro dnm

  • dave mann says:

    i agree bluenose08 , it wont go through, but theres no harm in trying to persuade pannu
    to put is diffrences aside with paladini for the sake of our club. KRO.

  • Will says:

    The advertising company that was to b
    uy the 12% share has failed to meet the deadline

  • AussieBlue says:

    Err..CY currently owns 12.6% of BCFC – an assett that could be seized – and the mysterious, address of convenience advertising outfit in Beijing were going to buy 12% of BCFC….go figure.

  • dave mann says:

    yeah , very difficult to work that one out… i think not!!! DNM & KRO.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    This is getting like a game of Cluedo…. trying to work out who did what, to whom and where. If all the relevant authorities (HKSE, FL, etc) can’t see what’s going on, they should be ashamed of themselves.

  • dave mann says:

    anyway, looking forward to QPR tommorow, should be a better atmosphere with the
    protests and the giant flag being taken round, lets end this barren run at home and
    what better chance than against a harry redknapp team and club thats £ 177 million
    pound in debt ( well done harry ) and pushing for automatic promotion….if not then
    Burnley wha are also pushing for promotion on wednesday night….4 points from
    them two games would give us 40 points with 11 games left and relegation a thing
    of the past. DNM & KRO.

  • Ray says:

    It’s about time our home form started to match our away form. It’s got to be psychological. No great difference in the teams we’ve played away and at home.


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