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Adams on Eve of Transfer to Blues?
News broke today that Birmingham City have had a bid rejected for Sheffield United forward Che Adams. The former Ilkeston player has scored 15 in 54 appearances in all competitions for the Blades, with 12 of those coming last season.
He’s the kind of player you’d hope Blues would be linked with. 20 years old, quick and tricky, and reportedly rated in the £2million bracket by the Blades. It’s been reported that Blues have had a seven-figure bid knocked back by Sheffield United – which in some quarters might be surprising in itself – and the question has to be asked whether Blues will go back with an improved offer or if this one has become too rich for Gary Rowett’s blood.
I’ve heard rumour that Blues aren’t out of the chase for Adams at all but I have to admit, right now I’m feeling the scepticism I’ve felt in every transfer window that Rowett (and Panos Pavlakis for that matter) can actually do the deal. There has been a consistent narrative from the club this summer that there is money there to be spent (even before the protracted takeover) yet only today we’ve seen comment from Rowett in the Birmingham Mail bringing in players isn’t easy and that players some fans might think we’d be in for are out of our price range.
I think they’re in a tough position. On the one hand, I think it’s better to under-promise and over-deliver and as such I think it might have been better to play the “it’s going to be tough to improve on this squad” card from the start of the summer; on the other hand I think with all the negativity that has been around it’s been important to give Blues fans a bit of hope for the future too.
Equally, as much the protracted nature of transfers has got to me of late I can sympathise on that front. The transfer market can be like a domino rally; it takes one piece to fall into place for all the rest to follow suit and sometimes if nothing is moving then the whole process comes to a shuddering halt. While additional money can speed up things Blues don’t have much of that luxury and as such are kind of left to wait a little bit longer to find out if they can do the deal.
Rowett has made much about players having to be “right” for the club and for the role within the squad – something I agree with, as we’ve seen before that buying players for the sake of it doesn’t work. However, as I’ve said before I think no decision is worse than a bad decision, and sometimes I think we have to bite the bullet and go for someone who is not quite perfect lest we be left dangling when the window closes. One thing I have hoped with the appointment of Ewan Chester is that there is someone there to give Rowett that little bit of confirmation that he is doing the right thing in making a decision to go for a player.
I guess time will tell if Adams – or anyone else for that matter comes into the club. I’m still hopeful we can do a deal this week; and if we can get the two or three Rowett wants in place for August 6, then that should satisfy even the most concerned.
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Mostly yes . KRO … But we wait and see as usual for someone else to take him .. and then we wait for the next dithering situation …. It’s a good job some of us have a personality on here . KRO
Good call Dave.
I read in press today James Wilson may sign for Fulham, this in addition Aluko another target we have missed out on.
I cannot think of a player like Kevin Phillips, who is the type of player we need.
And this to add to a wide player and full back.
I hope we do not miss the bus.
KRO
We were never interested in Aluko, he wasn’t a target.
Wilson hasn’t signed for Fulham yet so we’ve not technically missed out on him either, have we?
If Wilson signs for Fulham we should go after Matt Smith
Been saying that all summer. He’d be perfect for us. Probably out of our wage range though.
Whilst taking into account we don’t have the funds some clubs do, I think the way we finished last season, together with question marks over several current players for differing reasons, that they need to seriously consider pushing the boat out a bit more.
Put it this way, if we spend a million for arguments sake over budget, it won’t be all up front. Then if the takeover goes through it’s neither here nor there. If the takeover doesn’t for any reason go through, then spending an extra million now will be neither here nor there, as without TTA support there’ll be larger worries financially. Wait and be careful and potentially waste a season, or speculate and gamble a bit, even if it doesn’t work and we end up having to sell players, the crown jewels went long ago, I think blues fans could live with it.
I wonder whether we enquiries about the services of Lafferty. Only saw him play one game for us but he looked different class and think he would be lethal in the championship. Having said that, Norwich are probably well aware of that themselves.
As good as it is to be linked with players such as Che Adams (and actually offering some cash) I feel that the money could be better placed with a more proven striker and maybe this transfer shouldn’t be priority.
Does GR and Pav actually understand how to sign quality players or are they more comfortable and best at dealing with the lower league basement? I think so
Serious doubts on these two I’m afraid.
Yes imo there are doubts. What has made this situation in signing decent players very tricky is the hapless acquisitions of Vaughan and Brock-Madsen.GR must be feeling the pressure and one can sympathise to an extent-but overall you are right-a testing time for GR and Chester. They cannot afford any more wrong ‘ uns.
Absolutely right Mitchell and as ever Dan your comments are much appreciated. As ever so frustrating being a Blues supporter but we keep KRO .
Yes they have no idea how to sign players, especially with all those millions they have to splash out £10m here £15m there £6m there
I think you’re being unfairly harsh on both. My understanding is that players in the “window”, particularly quality players, will not move until their agents have presented them will all the options on the table. I don’t think Pavlakis and Rowett are necessarily failing in the market, they’re being out-bid, pure and simple. It’s hard for us to understand why a player wouldn’t want to don the Royal Blue of Birmingham, but for the players by and large we’re just another potential employer. If Barnsley can outbid us on the Walsall striker, that shows you the predicament we’re in – and still will be until the take-over is complete and more funds are available
Same old crap dates being put back time & time again the transfer deadline will come & and go and we might get another freebie or 2 don’t want to get fed up before season starts , so it’s not an option we need players to come in
Agreed and my concerns continue to grow. Personally I think, we will continue to be the poor relations. First Villa and now Wolves been taken over by Chinese with funds, with Albion muted to go the same way. What may we have TTA who say possibly £10m over 2 years that’s including wages.
I’m sure one of the other interested parties 12+months ago would have been a better bet. It’s also about time we had a statement from Pav.
that’s a spot on blog, it says everything I am feeling, All I would add is Gary and Panos if you have offered a Million quid then you really must rate this lad so come on Gary pay the extra even if you think its over what you want to pay, its swings and roundabouts and its a gamble all signings in this league is a gamble but at 20 even 1.5 million could be chicken feed if he is developed right and can score us a few along the way.
Wilson will sign for fulham so we have missed out,this Adams is a shout though kro
Why are we all upset about losing strikers that don’t score goals ? I know we’re desperate for players but don’t mourn for players that are no better than we already have.
We don’t know how much Adams will cost but the fact that blues could finance such a deal will be great,Vaughan will give blood in a blues-shirt and I think it’s his last decent shot in football its downward s for him if he fails at blues , I wish him all the best at blues,
If cotterill does go then hopefully we should have a few quid to put in the kitty but we all know it’s not an easy market, with all the silly prices being banded around maybe £1.2 million is not a bad investment but that valuation is probably incorrect
In your early twenties, with money in your pocket and as a loan you’d go to a London club not the provincies. It’s much more appealing.
What about seb Larson anyone?
Or matt smith the striker?
All day long!
For me he is at maghoma bracket but with less stamina at this time .but at twenty with Francis helping him who knows and it would gI’ve us some future back .
Usual nonsense. You’re the sort who thought Tait and Hopkins were good players!
Hopkins was class never let us down…krp
Quite right Tait had blonde hair and not much else, Hopkins ran all day and got nowhere.
Francis won’t be helping players. Purely glad-handing I expect
still reckon its better to shop abroad. I was hoping for Orellano to sign up.
We’re not a top six club in terms of dosh. I think there are 6 other teams in our division that will receive a parachute payment this season. A nice little £10M+ kitty for GR in the transfer market would be dreamland arm
Well if we’ve bid 1.2 million on a player at least it’s gone someway down the line to allaying my fears that there is some money to spend so I’m glad about that.
As far as Che Adams is concerned I have never seen him play so can’t make a judgement but if that’s GR’s choice then he will have my support because he is our manager and must be allowed to get on with his job.
Times moving on .. a couple of seasons ago I thought the 6′ 2″ Scott malone looke a good left back ….
Remember they will have at least £1m from Cotterill’s move to Cardiff
I not so sure cotterill is going ? Unless you know differently , hoping he is settled and having being injured last season he would come back fresh and have a season we remember . I do honestly believe we are a goal scorer short of making the playoffs and hope we get whoever Gary fancies . On a different note I hope he goes 2 up top at home in every game and a few away games who we are expected to give a game to . He and he’s team have done so well since coming in I just wish he’d go for it a bit more now with the better players we have .
I know nothing about Adams, other than what has appeared in the press recently. Considering how limited the funds have been at St Andrews in recent times, it seems on the face of it, a staggering amount of money that we may have offered for a relatively unproven player. Adams may be a great prospect, only time will tell. What does surprise me is that we can potentially muster up that anount of money for one player.
Mitchell wrote that Vaughan and Brock-Madsen were hapless signings. While I would wholeheartedly agree about Brock, who looks way out of his depth, I actually like Vaughan. Obviously, the fact that he has failed to score even one goal counts massively against him, but I think that when he does break his duck, we will see a different player. He grafts for the shirt and is mobile, good positional sense and decent touch. He needs one to go in off his backside and his confidence will surely soar.
Julian said that we will have £1,000,000 from the sale of Cotterill to Cardiff. That wouldn’t surprise me, be it Cardiff or somebody else. He has been linked with a lot of clubs in the close season, including Cardiff. It could be his agent mischief making, or putting his name out there, but we haven’t heard Cotterill come out and deny it. I have had the feeling for a while now that he has been waiting for a move, as he has in the past, so if he goes, then adios to him and let’s go spend the money.
I doubt Rowett/the club would bid £1.2m for a young player if they didn’t think he was worth it and could make a significant contribution immediately. Would they?
Vaughan is desperate for a goal and his body language shows it. As you said, it might just need that first goal for it to click. As for Brock-Madsen.. I really can’t see what Rowett saw in him in the first place. He really doesn’t seem to have what it takes does he? I’d cut our losses tbh.
If Cotterill did want to leave, I’m sure we could get upward of £1m for him easily. Aged 28, in his prime and a Welsh international who creates and scores goals. You wouldn’t take any less would you?
Bang on the money regarding Vaughan.
I personally would sell not cotterill as coming to he’s prime , why would Gary want to ? Unless cotterill pushes for it but the grass may not be greener like adymani when he left two seasons ago to go thereby ! Spelt something like that !? Brock I feel sorry for as not really had a run so jury out . Same as Vaughan we know he has quality but needs a first for that belief again !? .
You may be left with a want-away player. His pre injury performances last season were a shadow of 14/15
Agree completely with the last few comments about Vaughan, an early goal this season after a full injury free pre season and he might suprise a few people.
Still in need of at least a fullback and one more quality striker – whether it be Adams or whoever. But when was the last time (with the exception of Diego Fabbrini after Dimmi’s sale) did we have over a million quid to spend on a player?! Its slow as ever but things are improving and have done massively in comparison to a couple years ago.
Brock might of been a bad buy but he was a gamble at a reasonable price – as was Kieftenbeld and he is IMO the best signings we have made in quite some time. Cant win them all.
GR has improved us massively since he took over so lets stick behind him and the boys in royal blue!! 15 more sleeps……. KEEP RIGHT ON!!!
The club are bound to hype up that “money is available ” to capture more season tickets sales.
I suspect that until the sale officially goes through money will just be drip fed into the club.
Or am I being cynical?
Indeed Art and did they bid for adams knowing it would give a lift to us fans but also knowing that the bid would be rejected. Lets see if they chase this player with a better bid. I know Daniel you dont agree but we need a proper footballing chief exec with relevant experience and most importantly with football contacts. An individual like this could get us better loans from the prem and would get the inside line on players in special situations.Lets face it thats what we can afford but we dont have the right bloke in the hot seat to deliver.
Agree Swissjonny,but we simply have no idea where we are at as regards incoming quality. All I see is last seasons lower end teams signing players who I rate e.g Blackburn,Fulham. This in effect slips us a few notches down the table imo.Tesche,Shotton and Fab.make up the numbers ok,but the next signing for me will explain a lot. If the Adams bid of £1m plus is correct then optimism is warranted.Staffs commented on Vaughan and he may have a point regarding his first goal-but with no return pre season against the likes of Solihull Moors etc I just cannot see it happening here at Blues.Ideally Money plus Vaughan for Adams would be perfect but I don’t think Sheff. Utd are that naive.
Guys dont forget we got £1m+ from Redmonds recent move.
At first I thought lafferty would be the best striker signing . But I can’t see him playing second fiddle . So now I feel a young striker now as cover . Till January with the Don up front and with the said 10 million buy a striker in January ….
Yes wouldn’t getting a proven goal scorer in this division be great. Slight problem is that the likes of McCormack, Rhodes and Afobe cost north of £10m. Some of you lot need to get real when it comes to transfers. Firstly players have to be available, secondly they have to be better than what we have already got so they can go straight into the first team, thirdly they have to actually want to come to us rather than other clubs and finally they have to be affordable. When you take that all into account it’s not as easy as some people seem to think it is. On our budget we are not going to get the finished article – we are buying on potential eg Adams, Brock-Madson or we are going for players that for whatever reason are unwanted by their clubs eg Vaughan. There is a high risk they will not work out.
I was at Mickleover last night to watch the Under 21’s.
Also there was Mr & Mrs Rowett, Ewan Chester and Ian Clarkson..
Jack Storer was the stand out player. Hard to believe he is only 18 as he plays with so much maturity.
He has all the attributes of a striker….Good in the air, can shoot with either foot, high work rate and most of all aggressive.
Blues played Daniel Cleary a trialist, formally of Liverpool at centre back along side Luke Maxwell.
This is the first time I have watched Maxwell live, he appears to be overweight and cumbersome and centre back is not his position despite his size.
For the record Blues won 2-0 with goals from Storer and Hale.
Another goal from Hale, he must be close now
Storer good enough for the first team squad but Hale seems not . KRO
Im no Football manager but Hale seems to score for fun.Is it really not on to give him a go?
Massive massive step up from u18 to Championship, needs time at u21 first
Sometimes they can’t step up .remember James Quinn a few years ago 49 goals in the reserves never prolific in any side after
I think you are wrong Dan that’s two in two for under 21s, he has all the attributes needed to be a success, throw him in
Why wait for a young player to go off the boil or get disheartened when the effort put in isn’t rewarded with promised playing time with the first squad, some of these young players need their opportunity’s now, how are we going to find that young start if we are afraid of giving them the chance.
Rooney 17, Walcott 1, Rostron 17, Pricep 17,Sterling 17, Mitchell 18, Owen 18, Richards 18, Edwards 18, rashford 18,Brown 18, Wilshere 18, Shaw 18, Chamberlain 18, these players not only represnted their first teams but also had England caps, a good job GR was not any of their managers or we may never of heard of them! Kro
Why? He should have gone on one of the preseason tours either with the U21 to Austria or the first team. He should also have been given a run out in the last 3 preseason matches. Until you play him you will never know how good he is.
Why should he?
Do you honestly think the club don’t have a clue compared to you? Do you think Gary Rowett’s knowledge of the kid’s development is second to yours? That Richard Beale (who barely picked him for the u21s last season) knows less about Ronan Hale than you do?
Seriously, give your head a wobble. He’s not ready for the championship. Trust me on this. He’s a talent, he needs nurturing, he’s got time.
Storer is ahead on first team experience, at Stevenage
Sometimes I question Rowett and Beales Qualities Hate to think what would have happened to Trevor with these pair of ultra cautious, run of the mill people.
Let’s give him till xmas in the 21s and when he’s banged in a dozen goals by then we can give him a go and see what hes made of , if not then we carry on , nothing to lose this season IMO . KRO
How did Gary go from messiah to sap with two top ten finishes give the guy a break the good times are just about to start.
Sorry but from January till end of the season it was relegation form. His signing on the whole have been quite poor. He has a one track mind regarding formations and certain never plays real attacking football. Look how many times we took the lead in matches and ended up losing. In fact although he did okay with Burton look what they achieved after he left with near enough the same squad
If we manage to get Che Adams for a million plus at the age of 20, then he’ll probably be worth a lot more in the next few years? Surely it’s a win win if we go that extra mile to get him? He sounds a very good prospect, so would be a valuable asset even if he did move on.
Putting in an improved bid apparently which might include a player aswell … Looks like Rowett is keen on this guy . KRO
Yes Dave and we have a few useful players to offer : Shinnie,Vaughan,BM and possibly one of the upcoming stars. Personally I think they will go with Vaughan.
Cotts plus half a mil?
I think Cotts would probably say a huge “p*ss orf” to that one jonny. He joined Blues because he didn’t want to drop into league 1.
I think we will now see what Rowett and Panos are made of.? No excuses boy`s
Of course Storer was signed from Stevenage. That explains the ‘maturity’ in his play. Looks like he’s a very decent prospect
Perhaps a little tongue in cheek but they can have all 3 of the names you have mentioned Mitchell. Hope Brown gets his chance with us rather than out on loan even with all the current midfielders in front of him. If Shinnie goes perhaps as no2 to Fab.
Played well in pre season . KRO
Very disappointing against Solihull
This transfer window should have taught us a big lesson ….One: that clubs are always willing to outbid you for strikers …..two; even if it’s just to keep you below them …three we must give long contracts to Hale and Storer and che Adams i f we get him .we must stop selling good prospects off unless it is for a better player . KrO
Yes William bang on the money. We must also make sure that the buyout clauses are for proper money not a trifling million quid which rather revoltingly appears to be nothing in football these days. If we have to be a talent factory to survive then so be it but lets please make sure that we get properly paid for our products.
I went to Forest Green and was very impressed by Jack Storer, albeit against level 5 opposition. I agree with everything that Richard said about him. He has a really nice touch and tried a couple of really intelligent flicked passes too. He looks a strong powerful lad and it has been quite some time since I was as enthused about one of our young prospects as this. Time will tell…
Exactly my thoughts at the game to guvna .. Looks like is breakthrough season to me . KRO
If this happen i will be shocked. This guy is ok, but not worth this much as hes still a gamble. But if GR thinks he can do something with him, good on him.
However how much will be left for other positions to be filled. Defense and mid field ??
My expectation is we will just about survive another season in the championship before the take over is complete (im sure the two yrs for TTA will be a close run thing) We will have a hard working squad which will grind out the odd good result and we will see what 2017/18 brings us.
KRO
PS thanks Dan as always great Blog
“Adams on Eve of transfer…” I have to take me ‘at off to you for that one Dan!
Bugger me, yeah. Well spotted Aussie… I missed that. :))
Went straight over my head as well.
I’ve got more where that came from haha
With titles like that you could work for the soaraway Sun.
Just read your comments on me talking rubish Latchford /Hatton /Francis … well we all do that at times . ..but at least I have a letter addressed to me from ALF RAMSEY thanking me for a very interesting letter on what type of players make a good team . When he was care taker manager of blues .I was also a scout and cub football manager for five years . And that don’t make me anything … but somebody who likes to air and opinion ..I won’t call EX players that did a job for us when jt was needed and a young player who as played for 2 games for England under 20s scoring 1 goal is worth a punt ..there you go ….
William. You have mine and I would imagine 99% of bluenoses behind you here. My advice to LHF is ‘don’t mess with William’!
Might be a rumour, but just heard Seb Larson may be a pssiblity.
Had anybody heard the same?
KRO
For me Adams has a hint of Troy Deeney about him; his speed, strength, eye for goal and aggression would suit us perfectly. I could see him linking up well with Fab and Co so its all good in my view. In regards to Vaughan, he just seemed last season so desperate to score which seemed detrimental to his finishing. I’m sure he will come good and deliver the good, be it assist, goals or creating more space for others as his role in not just to put the ball in the net. KRO
Vaughan has more to his game than the primary aim of a striker. We will never get a 20 goals a season man without 10+ million. So we need players that complement each other and this way get goals though out the team rather than one or two who bang them in regularly
Your skepticism rubs off on other fans but I don’t share it. We have good management and some level of trust is vital – we lost the owners who are doing well at WHU in part because of negative fans. Strikers are hard to get and we are by no means among the richest clubs in the Championship. Like it or not you are a leader Dan = stay positive….if we do not buy anyone else then be skeptical.
A pacy player to beat a man and occupy defences is a must for our attacking chances this season. Without it we’re so predictable and ineffective, as has been the case since gray left. Hopefully this is what we can get in as to me it’s more key than having someone who can score regularly for us. Let me also note that this Adams kid isn’t a conventional striker type.
Now add wolves to the growing list of clubs with a lot more money to spend in the championship. We have practically no chance of promotion this year, or in the forseeable seasons, unless we change the playing staff very soon. we must get these signing over the line. a couple of decent attackers and a left back desperately needed.
Correct but does prefer up front so he will do for me and that’s where we should play him if we sign him otherwise if cotterill stays then why bother because out on the right is the only other position you can play him . KRO
Well wolves have new owners Chinese no messing around there pass FA inspection money sorted now all we get is same old same old been a delay again in China stock exchange who gives a f### about that all we hear is been delayed sort it out Ernest and young you are supposed to be the best out there but you look more like a joke again give us our club back so we can start to rebuild
It’s the HKSE not anyone else .. Keep up !! KRO
Been keeping up for 17 months but our club is suffering were as every other club is moving forwards it won’t be long before GR gets pissed of and moves on
But you’re lashing out at the wrong people…
And for 17 months been hearing on deaf ears so keep calm and think of Blues . KRO
We desperately need to get some pace into the team. Adams seems to have this to burn. Please increase the bid and show us some positivity!
A pacey LB would be nice too.
Look across the road at the vile look up M6 at the dingles and also maybe our friends the baggies new owners no messing around as a blues fan like us all we won’t our club back wots the betting again in a couple of weeks we hear the same old story now I had a dream new owners missing fans have come back to cheer the lads and the vile were struggling
HKSE.. Do we have to keep repeating ourselves .. Gordon Bennett !!!! .. Chill out and enjoy the season . KRO
Gosh what another frustrating day to be a Blues supporter. Yet another club has new owners whilst our situation drifts on with very little understanding of our proposed new owners intentions when and if it eventually happens. When we are linked with anything half decent in the transfer market the odds are they will go somewhere else. But hopefully Tesche and Fab can produce some magic to knit the average bunch around them together and a few of the youngsters get a chance and produce the goods. KRO
Carlos calm down man all this mess will be over soon enough just be a bit more patient. And for all those who are knocking rowett and saying he an panos should be doing this and that think about this- I would rather they take time an get the right ones with the little amount of money we have available at the moment.
Maybe its just one giant con trick, Ernst &young coining it they are happy, Rowett feels under no pressure he’s happy, the staff keep things ticking over they are happy.
No one feels under pressure to perform,
Tony mate .. Your not happy are you pal !! KRO
Not happy at all DAVE
Exactly mate .. No pleasing some fans who propably don’t go to most games anyway .. The ones that keep moaning I mean !! KRO
Will probably get shot down for raising this but…
£1 000 000 plus for a lad who has barely played in the division below us and has scored 1 in 3ish
is somehow a better deal than
£750 000 for a lad with 3 years more experience and proven quality at the same level and scores 1 in 2ish
Happy to be proven wrong but that’s a big gamble on potential
David L
You do know that Adams isn’t a striker, don’t you? And we’re not signing him as one?
Have you told Adams that . KRO
I read somewhere that a supporter asked him which is his favourite position and he said wide left. If that’s the case, he’s exactly what we’re looking for.
Crazily late to reply, I know but
You’re right : I didn’t know he wasn’t a “striker”…however the article mentions his goal scoring record prominently, so you have to think that’s the reason for the interest in him.
It still seems odd to claim a relatively unproven 20 year old from a div below is a good prospect at £1m + whereas a proven one at 750K isn’t.
And if he’s not a striker, why do we need another wide player when we have (at least) Cotterill, Maghoma, VSO who can play there?
But yep, ultimately I’m just a daft bloke on the terraces and will leave decisions to those who know about running football teams – but that still doesn’t make it seem right to me that Adams fits the description of someone who is “better than what we’ve already got”
Wrong as usual .. Sorry mate . KRO
Adams is 20 and 12 of his 15 goals came last season. Most of his early appearances were as sub to blood him into the first team, seems to me not a bad rate of improvement, got time on his side as well. Not seen much of him but sounds good to me, worth a go. Young, quick, hungry and would be desparate to prove himself at this level. Sounds ok to me…
Vaughan and Brock-Madsen both shit player Sell both now
LOL Ian just because you drop the ‘Ambrose’ we still know it’s you!
Now what makes you think that Dan?
three words confirm it – ‘centre half back’ not heard from you for a while Ian, welcome back
Always Vaughan so much talked him self without score at blues waste time of him and !Brock-Madsen £500K is wasteful Best both player sell them get out…Bring new strike Che Adams and centre half back…. Good luck to GR
a big well done to Jack Storer 4 goals in 3 games a very talented young man….played against him knocking around in family back garden. Local lad billesley and i hope he gives GR more food for thought about his first team opportunity from bluenose family and friends. when he scored at derby i said GTFI.
LOve him to continue his development and he is also given his opportunity to play on Sunday against hiberian. Because his family and friends are right behind him…………………this boy could be the golden nugget trust me………….lets hope GR knows it to
Adams signing if it comes off could mean 4x3x3 at home ….
No you can play 11
I was thinking that myself. Cotterill Donaldson Adams as a front three. But that would mean Fabbrini either playing on the right of the middle three (not ideal,) or left out altogether for Kieftenbeld, Teshe and Gleeson. I really don’t fancy that at all tbh.
Staffs….I have a feeling in my water that Cardiff will trigger the clause in Cotterill’s contract that means he can leave for £1.1m.
Cotterill’s USP is his delivery at dead ball situations. He cannot tackle and his work rate is average.
In Tesche we have a replacement for his dead ball skills, which means if we do play 4-3-3 at home (which I hope we do) our first choice front 3 maybe Vaughan, Donaldson, Maghoma OR Adams, Donaldson, Fabbrini.
You could well be right Richard. The problem then, would be who would take free kicks and corners? It was proved beyond doubt last season that no one else in the first team squad could do the job.
Do you think he might consider 3-5-2?
Morrison, Shotton and Grounds would suit that in terms of the back 3. Kieftenbeld, Tesche and Fabbrini would work for me as the central midfield 3. Donaldson would then also have some support up front. Caddis could be suited to the right wing back position. Nobody really suitable for left wing back in the squad at the moment.
Just a thought anyway. Probably wont happen.
I’ve brought this up before, when we were going through that bad patch at the end of last season. I said thenh, that I thought Maghoma could do a wing back job. After covering Grounds for most of last season, he’s proved that he likes a tackle and would do well breaking down the left.
Richard, I think you will find Cotterill does not have such a clause.
Seems that we are being punished for trying to get something for less . 2 MILL for VYDra on loan means that the opposition can smell panic .And we now move into the Take the Irish period . Once again we get little help from those that are paid and are responsible for bringing in income . For God sake where’s the ambition …there is about as much ambition as a funeral director at his own funeral ..Let’s get this show on the road the fans expect ….KRO
Vydra’s good, but he ain’t 2 million good. Move on.
Absolutely no indication so far from preseason that we will anything other that 4411 / 4231. On that basis Donaldson will make way for Che Adams once he is integrated into the system
I’m sure Adams isn’t been bought as an out and out striker.GR would play him left midfield/wing.
or right back. lol
Spot on. He’ll either be wide left in a 4-2-3-1 or on the left of (Donaldson in) a 4-3-3.
Except Adams doesn’t play up front, he’d play as one of the wide men…
Is Adams a certainty . It seems a bit quiet at moment .
yes I think Dan will have to drop the Eve bit doubt it will be today.
I think you missed the question mark zxcv. And maybe the sense of humour too.
Bit of a sickener! Have a look at what money Wolves are due to spend over next week or so. Reports suggest three Portugeese internationals for starters. Hope Brucie goes to Sunderland amidst Wolves rumours-that really would ruin the weekend.
Wish he would come to us
If we can get vydra and Adams over the line that would be great Mitch . Anything else would be a bonus especially if we have a chance to buy vydra in january
more chance of signing me than Vydra mate
No,not really Dan.
GR has said within the last few days that he won’t be signing Vydra and explained why so don’t put your house on that one William.
Cotterill omitted from the squad travelling to Edinburgh……Gary says it is due to lack of fitness.
A cynic may conclude he is on the way to Cardiff City
Understandably right Richard. Because we never seem to get positive vibes from our hirearchy with clear intents-our dubious nature takes hold. If by Monday we haven’t got anyone ‘over the line’ a bit more stuffing will be lost. Dave I know is calm because January next will be the important one but we need to keep above the water line until then. As it stands we don’t look too pretty.
I’ve been working and gardening mate so don’t look to pretty myself but brush up quite well for Blues matches :-) KRO
You a cynic Richard ? KRO
Perish the thought.
My interest in signing anybody Dan has just gone out the window HA HA HA
My interest is going up to Edinburgh in the morning and spending a pleasent weekend aswell .. Might take in a football match maybe . KRO
As our squad stands now and considering all formations I do feel we will draw more games than losses. However I do foresee winning games will be at a premium. To totally freshen up our attacking it would take brave action and buy replacements for Donaldson and Cotterill. Good players both,but stale and predictable. Dave will no doubt give us our eagerly awaited report from Hibs.tomorrow albeit without the input of Cotterill,which leads us back to Richards thoughts?
I wonder if there will be a mad flurry of transfers over the next 2 weeks? Not just Blues, but everyone else too. My worry is that whoever comes in after next week will be playing catch up and we probably won’t see the best of them until maybe September/October time when they’ve settled in.
As I see it there are two scenarios, one the club are lying and they don’t have the money to bring anyone half decent to the club two Rowett is doing his usual prevaricating act not knowing what the hell to do.
Brock really did him some damage he’s scared of repeating the mistake, the closer it gets to deadline day the easier for him to take another no mark on loan, we will then have the usual quote about several signings he could not quite get over the line.
All so predictable
God mate you are like a broken record! I’m frustrated by lack of movement because I have itchy feet and want to be excited, looking forward to the season starting. You just remind me of Eeyore with his rain coud. We might get promoted, we might get relegated, we will probably finish 10th again. The only thing we know is that we will be happy, angry, worried, frustrate and everything in between! So go on mate, allow yourself a smile before it all starts!
Another day,another week of expectation of who may be crossing the line into Stans.Why we stress ourselves heaven only knows. Next week,suggest we take a leaf from Dave Mann and do the gardening and wait until January window. By then Dave will share his opinions on how to prune your roses and what compost he recommends for the spring.
smile in the company of a crowd that settle for mediocrity, that get excited by these third rate gobshites running around aimlessly, there have been some great players gracing the field at Stans I cant get excited by this lot.
Tony,settling for mediocrity isn’t something a lot of us are doing through choice mate.Its just a realism of where the club is at the moment.I don’t know wheather it’s escaped your attention but we’ve been in a spot of bother for the past,urn,5 yrs or so and with finances a bit tight to say the least.I think you and a few others need to grasp what’s going on a bit better instead of ranting on about how crap our manager is..Do you honestly think that if he could sign some quality he wouldn’t?.
No Hillfiel.d I don’t think he knows quality when he sees it
Tenth I’d bite your hand off. I don’t think we will finish that high. Hope I’m wrong. …
Dan watch this space I will tell you where we will finish.
Gone to the beautiful English province of Devon for a few days break, turned off all access to social media, said to my good wife, when we get back to Brumagem I think that we will have a player or two on board. My oh my how wrong was I. Fellow fans talking about there gardening skills, apathy a plenty, fans, many fans who are now on the edge with the farcical going ons on and off the pitch. I’ve got to say that in my 40 years of being a fan and 32 years of following the club everywhere, this is the first time that I am going into a season without any feelings whatsoever for my club, none at all. I felt more passion for my beloved Blues under Clarke. Almajir please no more hearsay regarding signings only facts from now on. Very Very Very tired and Weary. KRO one an all.
There’s always an excitement leading up to a new season… but I just don’t feel it this time. I can’t remember a more boring lead up to a season. Even with the takeover on the horizon, it’s all a bit meh tbh. Am I the only one who feels that?
You obviously don’t read what I have to say then
Staffs no your not. this is what I posted this week.
zxcv says:
July 19, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Am I the only one not feeling the same excitement as this time last season and I find that very strange tbh, because last year we still had the likelihood of Carson returning and if we were going to have to sell players. Now we can see the end of the tunnel and the prospect of new signings all be it maybe in Jan window but none the less its still don`t feel quite the way it should. Tbh I would like the club (Mr Pannu) to be a bit more open with the Fans/season ticket holders and explain a bit more what we should be expecting this window even if its not good news at least we would be able to manage our expectations, it seems like the s/holders of bihl are all that matters and the people who support this club week in week out home and away are actually told very little if anything at all. BCFC is what really should be of a priority to bihl as it is its only asset to speak of and the supporters of this club should be treated with a whole lot more respect than what has been shown in recent months. I want more communications from the guy I have tried to show respect to and he did indeed once tell us he would talk to us more, sorry Peter but it seems like less to me. Sorry Dan I know this is off topic and hope you don`t mind thanks.
I read every post on here. That doesn’t mean I commit them to memory for future reference. :-/ I read them, agree or disagree, then move on.
Staffs, I was only answering your question.
I was replying to Andrew mate, not to you.
No mate there are quite a few of us who feel the same kind of thing.
No problem staffs. this site`s a wee bit confusing lol, ….or I am getting old.
Ain’t we all. :)
Na staffs I’m really looking forward to it for one ! Few new attacking players and local Derbys wet the appetite for sure . As I said earlier I just hope Gary and he’s team go for it more at home and get the fans on the edge of our seats win lose or draw , just go for it what have we to lose ?
I totally agree… not that I expect it to happen for a single second. Other than the odd switch, I can only see the same old 4-2-3-1 home and away. I really, really hope I’m wrong.
We’ll the way they have set up in preseason suggests your right . But we have better quality now in midfield and wingers are hardworking and quick enough to keep most teams on the back foot and our main striker the don seems to score more from the ball coming from wide postions me thinks , anyway bring on the season
Staffs I think it has to do with knowing that unless we pull something out the bag then we can guess confidently of the side and formation and in our heart of hearts that over 46 games it won’t quite be enough for what we want and almost certainly to good for what we dread. But there are 15 other clubs that will finish in that bracket and this one is ours. I’m excited to follow them and share it with all my fellow Bluenoses. It was always going to be difficult for GR to continue the improvement he started with. We were awful and directionless when he took over and in all fairness I’m happy with a steady ship just now. Hopefully the yacht in Monaco is just around the corner…
Fair point.Its not so much about formations but quality of player that can make them work that is the real problem.Hoping that Tesche can make us a bit more solid in midfield but Its all about what we expect from them and so far,given our transfer activity to date,mid table is about par.
Fair assessment Dan H. I think it just needs that certain something to create a buzz. Strengthening our weak points would be a good start.
So that would be, lack of pace bringing the ball out of our own half, lack of competition at full back, particularly LB and not enough goals. Have you seen much of Adams? Does he drift in from the wing? I think we could do with a wide man who had the tendency to come in. Would give opposition CH more to think about than just snuffing out CD. I think we see the ball come back to us too often when aiming for him and he is out muscled or just plain kicked out the way!
I do think we need to be a bit cuter around the edge of the box. Tbh, I get bored sh**less watching the long ball up to the Don just to see it coming back at us.
I can remember the same line up every game at Stans.without the need for a one up top alone. This formation was standard:- Hellawell,Bloomfield,Harris,Leek and Auld. We let a few in at the back but more than made up for it up front.
You’re talking class there Mitchell. It’s been a long, long time since we signed class.
How have we ended up with this awful system that nearly every club adopts. For a few decades now it has been pack the midfield,give nothing away and starve the front striker or two if your lucky. Euro games this tournament have been pretty sterile due to this way of playing modern football. I feel sorry for the younger generation who haven’t experienced what the likes of you and me have seen with attacking football.
So true.
the foreigners have done this to English football, look at the way they play, all about possession and dominating in midfield, thats why you only get a couple of teams win their leagues every year (because they can afford the best midfielders……).
It’s called managerial job security mitchell…. by the way Rob Wildey Burton on Trent is in the west Midlands
Gary has omitted Brock-Madsen from the party travelling north due to him not being available for the Roda game due to Olympic commitments.
Viv Solomon-Otabor IS included despite being in the Nigeria Olympic squad……..Strange!
Rowett on bcfc.com this morning:
“The other one we have left out of the squad is Brock. That’s just because we’ve got three strikers, two are realistically going to play Sunday.
“He’s going to get game time in the Olympics, he’s not here for the Roda game, so I didn’t really see much value in taking him up, giving him minutes and someone else not getting minutes, when he’s going away next week anyway. So he has been left behind and we’ve got to start to look to who is going to be here the first two or three games of the season.”
Truth is Rowett has no plans for this player in the immediate future. (in my opinion) If he had he would be playing him at every possible opportunity to kick start him.
He’s had very little game time tbf. The best thing Rowett can do for Brock, is to send him to a league 1 or 2 club on loan… see how he does there. If he can’t hack it there, he’ll never make it in the chamionship..
In Edinburgh having a beer talking to Hibs fans .. Lovely jubbly . KRO
Now it seems we are not after vydra at all.. ..no pain no gain ……no ….no gain some pain …..are we there yet …
Impressed with Birmingham born Ben Richards-Everton left sided centre-back for Dunfirmline. Would be worth scouting him in a league game. He may have been watched when he played the non-leagues here and judged not good enough but that was then.
Julian…….Any player released by Partick Thistle cannot be Championship standard.
Depends whether Partick got rid for football reasons alone. Was a standout yesterday but as it was two levels above his current league maybe he won’t impress in his own division. If our Scottish scout has seen him and crossed him off the list so be it, but he was a standout in a game of little ability.
Alan Hansen played for Patrick although he wasn’t released RG .your thinkings right though .you get what you pay for
Its said Bruce walked out on hull in take-over because of failure by board to sign 3 of brucies transfer targets , you would have thought with the sellers coming in to money and they buyers having money that a deal at the bank would be easy.and set up before hand to save pressure on anybody….KRO
It’s possible that, with new owners coming in and no assurances on certain things, he thought stuff that, been there done that, got the t-shirt.
Hi Dave Mann, will you be in Princes Street getting the no. 1. What is your Twitter handle? KRO