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Possible New Delay in Carson Court Case

It has emerged in the last hour in the Cantonese press in Hong Kong that Carson Yeung has filed an application for a judicial review into his court case.

Carson has asked for the case, which is due to be heard in the district court on April 29, to be heard in the High Court instead. Should this application be successful it would undoubtedly delay the criminal trial further whilst a slot is found within the High Court’s scheduling for the hearing, which is due to last a minimum 25 days.

Carson was arrested June 30 2011 and was originally due to be tried in the District Court on November 29 2012.

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57 Responses to “Possible New Delay in Carson Court Case”

  • Mickey07 says:

    This was my/our fears…..another few years of this rubbish too come yet.

    • Blueboy 88 says:

      Yeah , but the good news is Trev landed himself a new job in Rome yesterday….
      might bring us a bit of divine intervention..

  • Swindon blue nose says:

    How can they keep letting him off
    Just send him down and get him to sell the club
    Stop fannyin around it is killing blues .

    • almajir says:

      a) They’re not letting them off – he’s applied for a review, doesn’t mean that they will grant it.

      b) he’s innocent until proven guilty and like everyone else is entitled to due process.

      • mark says:

        exactly Dan, until proven guilty……………he entitled to fight his corner….like everyone else.

  • Bluenosesol says:

    Hi Almajir, is there any views on the rationale? Is it a simple delaying tactic or would a High Court hearing enhance his prospects?

    • almajir says:

      I think it’s a delaying tactic and that it’s unlikely to be granted. My hope is that it will be dealt with at the pre-trial hearing that was scheduled anyway for March 25.

      IF it’s granted, it’s a gamble. A district court has no jury but has a max sentence of 7 years. A high court has a jury (which gives Carson a better chance) but he can get 14 years.

  • desertbootboy says:

    it seems mr yeung tells the courts what to do and tey jump,oh for the day when we can just care about what happens on the pitch….we was told from many a person this would happen before these clowns took over though….

  • daddybluenose79 says:

    Could this latest devolpment be a way to buy more time to sell the club to finance a better legal team and thus have a better chance with a jury as opposed to a single judge? And is it simpky coincidence that its right before our accounts are about to be released, coincidence being a recurring theme with this saga.

  • Masaccio says:

    Nothing unusual about this application, only suprised they left it so long to act.

    For blues the problem is that the delay will effectively strangle the club more than at present as he can;t put fund in etc, doesn’t mean the club can’t be sold and that might play into some consortiums hands?

    CY knows he’s probably going to lose the football club, he’s just trying to maximise his payment.

  • Paul Carter want's shooting he says:

    We have to assume his innocence not his guilt for that is the basis of all law.

    BTW Dan I saw you yesterday about 5 with your little girl crossing the road by Kingshurst library. I did shout hello but you blanked me. The real life equivalent of deleting my posts :(

    • almajir says:

      Did you?

      Sorry dude, I’d bust a tin opener and I had to get a new one… dinner was in the oven and I was in a rush.

      • Paul Carter want's shooting he says:

        No worries, talk about things never changing.

        Popped in The Mountfort to see an old mate, within 15 minutes in come the old bill lol

        • DoctorD says:

          No tin opener — so you must be buying Sainsbury’s Basics as posh tins have a ring pull. Look everyone — this is the shoestring on which Dan runs this website. Can’t even afford posh beans as he’s too busy reading BIH accounts ON OUR BEHALF. So stop slagging him off – he’s doing a great job.

        • Bluenosesol says:

          The Mountfort???? So not all the old bastions of Kingshurst and Chelmsley Wood have been shut down! Used to be a day time haunt 30 years ago when I used to meet my work mates for a lunchtime catchup….

  • chris says:

    So if it’s granted he and BIHL will no doubt hang onto Blues through the summer, only looking for investors, but not looking for buyers.
    Pannu will then be able to take another years wage and will that still be £700,000, even though our parachute payment will be halved to £8 million?
    So if this delay occurs, with no new owner on the horizon and only a slim chance of investors coming onboard, it looks like more sales of our best players or rising youngsters just to pay Zigic’s pay rise to £62,000 a week.

    • mark says:

      To be honest Chris it would be better moving Zigic on in the summer if possible, and keeping our young good players which I feel are in the best interest of the club, and finding a goal scorer who can give the club 25 goals, and hitting the back of the net regularly basis. We have to look to the future not live in the past.

  • Art Watson says:

    The last paragraph in your post is my worst fear but could possibly happen.

    Having a proactive youth policy is fine as long as you don’t have to sell the good players in order to keep the club afloat.

    Assuming we don’t get a buyer before the new season starts its more than likely to happen.

  • Paulo says:

    Sounds like yet another play / gamble to delay the precedings, and yet go for the angle of being tried by a high court. It’s only an application at the moment, so even if it did accepted, wouldn’t it also give the prosecution further reason to enforce it’s case, as it will also have the opportunity to deliver it to a jury! With all the attention he has been getting, and I imagine there may be a few more hidden gems that either side could pull out the bag, when needed, but his defense team are no doubt aware of the detail that is needed anyway.

  • nicky wicky says:

    I can see a lot of apathy with supporters building up if the club is not sold. the crowds are already getting low, and if carson is still hanging on then i reckon season ticket sales will be poor until fans see what direction the club is taking, and moves to sell!

  • Atahualpa is a BlueNose says:

    I cannot believe or accept that CY’s legal team have simply dreamed this up on a whim.
    Surely it will not be moved as no judge to date has ever expressed even an inkling that it should be and neither have CY’s lawyers. Believe it may just be a tactic of “suck it and see”.

    We cannot go on indefinitely like this and according to all sources the money will run-out in the summer, and to believe we can just continue selling players is not very practical or realistic. If Butland only achieved £3.5m, we would be extremely fortunate to raise a similar sum by selling 3-4 of our better players. PP might simply let the highest earners go on frees – in addition to others whose contracts expire, but we will still be saddled with Zigic I would imagine.

    There has to be investment into the club in the summer otherwise we are gonna be stuck in a rut for many years to come. Either CY gets one of his mates to pump funds in, hopes he gets off and does so himself or tries to sell.

    The staus quo cannot be maintained, it’s left us floundering and adrift without any focus or direction.

  • Retired&weary says:

    I hope that this potential delay has no effect on the sale of the club. I suspect that a significant number of ST holders will not renew under the current regime. This is a key period in terms of cash flow & I doubt that we have sufficient assets to sell now to cover the shortfall. So never mind the R word, the A word will come to the fore again. Do we need to generate a further 10 point gap in case adminstration arises, or have we passed the cut off for that to help?

  • AR says:

    As Zigic has one more year on his contract, he’s not going to go anywhere, even on a “free” unless of course some club will offer him what he’s getting at the moment. This to me seems very unlikely, so we will still be having the millstone round our necks and the parachute payments halved and CY still not selling the club. Where do we go from here?

  • Marky mark says:

    I think the team behind CY believe he will win this case, in fact I suspect the case will get chucked out.

    Important to remember CY is acting in his best interests, its his livelihood at stake, for the sake of the club I hope they refuse his application and get on with the trial so we can have our football club back

  • Tony says:

    This is laughable Dan surely the authorities can see whats going on, can you envisage any circumstances where the courts will say enoughs enough and throw the case out?

  • Macca Salop Blue says:

    I’m getting sick and tired of all these delaying tactics, there seems to be some sympathy for CY on this message board, but I say “no” we are the victims in all this, our club is being messed up big style, we are suffering as a result of him. Why couldn’t he have tried this manouevre earlier?
    Ok not guilty until proven but there’s no smoke without fire. Didn’t he have similar charges dropped against him in 2004 ? And didn’t he knock on the door of Reading & Sheff Wed (who were financially on their knees at the time) and they had the nous to reject him? So what are the people who have sympathy with him going to do if he gets off? Are they going to kiss his feet on his first return visit to St Andrews? I’m totally and utterly fed up with it all.

    • almajir says:

      Grrr… this is a blog NOT a messageboard..

    • Blue in Spain says:

      Dont you love that phrase no smoke without fire, becuase there have never been miscarriages of justice have there, and the people uttering such nonsense would be the first to bleat if they were wrongfully convicted without a fair trial!

  • Macc lad says:

    Do you have any info on the story from football economy anyway Dan? I see no sources attributed. Is it just a filler on a quiet news day?

  • phil says:

    “we are suffering as a result of him?” If he’s found not guilty then we are suffering as a result of whoever it is that has taken him to court. I have backed Yeung through all this because my view is …..but what if he is a victim? What if he is innocent? He would have every right to come back to our club then and he would be totally vindicated. However, I don’t think he would or should whether found guilty or not. He is not delaying his court appearance to further alienate us fans. We are probably not in his thoughts. He is trying to protect what he has and to stay away from prison and will do what he can to achieve that goal. Our club has been damaged through all of this and yes that p***es me off, we have been knocked back 20 years and that makes me angry. However, they need to sell. They have money problems and unless Yeung is found not guilty, they will lose the club for a pittance. So it is my opinion that nothing that delays the trial would delay any potential sale of our club. The longer we have to wait, the more money the Chinese could lose so I believe they will accept the only offer they have had so far, eventually.
    We may end up at the seasons end in administration. But we then would start the next season with -10 points and so we would struggle to challenge for promotion even with new owners. The future has to give, one way or another. We will survive this. KRO

  • DoctorD says:

    Dan — are you getting up at 6am tomorrow to check out the BIH accounts when they go live at 3pm local HK time?

    The Ides of March — the date when Caesar was stabbed to death by Brutus and Cassius. Could this be the date when CY gets his come uppance by the duo of Pannu and, er, Colin Tatum?

  • James says:

    I can’t beleive my eyes over some of these comments.

    He was charged almost 2 years ago. He’s had 2 years to put a case together. He’s had to raise 2 years to raise funds. He has put OUR CLUB in limbo for 2 years.

    Delays, excuses, poor Carson – innocent until proven guilty???? Go to court then and STOP DELAYING YOUR OWN TRIAL FFS

    KRO

  • chas says:

    Congratulations Dan.. A BIG mention (Dark Letters, no less) in tonights Mail..I know a few who should eat humble pie..;-)

  • jazzzy786 says:

    If he is not granted this can he appeal against the judgement? Have you any ideas on what type of delay would taking this case to the high court incur?

    Is there no end to this nightmare???

  • Art Watson says:

    We are all just pawns in a business chess game.

    The pawns are always sacrificed to allow the main players to win the game.

    Loyal and passionate supporters are not under consideration so that’s why I refuse to help fund their games.

    • Marky mark says:

      Loyal and passionate fans support the team through thick and thin.

      So you shouldn’t really put yourself in that bracket Art.

      • Art Watson says:

        Yes you are right but sadly I’m not the type of person to roll over and be continually shafted by a group of high flyers who don’t have the remosted idea about the heritage or tradition of our club and who frankly couldn’t give a s..t about the people who are financing their buisness-the fans.

        This doesn’t mean to say that I am anti anyone that goes to the games regardless,as they have my total admiration but its not for me and I just want rid of the people who have destroyed our club and continue to do so.

        We are pawns in a chess game!

        • Marky mark says:

          Let’s not get into another war of words, Its a shame your passion has been lost from the terraces where we need it most.

          I suppose we should accept there are two types of fans,

          Those that go the game and support the club, and those that don’t and don’t.

          All I’m saying is don’t bracket yourself with me and other likewise fans, because when all Said and done you have deserted us.

          • Art Watson says:

            I understand your view point but I have not deserted the club -I am however no longer prepared to help finance the present owners who continuinly rape the club .Generation after generation my family have always supported the club and I will continue with this tradition but Im not prepared to pour my money in to a bucket with a hole in the bottom.

            Does this make me a none supporter ?

          • Art Watson says:

            Marky Mark,

            Are you therefore saying that anyone who doesn’t go to the games have deserted the club.?

            How about the numerouse expats that rarely have the opportunity and those who work on match days and those who just can’t afford or those who are to sick to go .

            Are we all deserters?

            If we are -what is your definition of a supporter?

  • carlos says:

    After being led to believe that the Chinese value their honour and do not like to lose face,CY is not making much of a fist of things. He has already hid behind his wife and mother regarding his house repossession, and now he is trying to hide from the courts and delay things as long as possible. If I was innocent of all charges I would want it sorting out asap. Time for him to man up and accept his responsibilities.

  • StevieW says:

    Does Carson Yeungs situation prevent the sale of Blues ?

    The reason I ask is because if it does not I dont care how long he takes to find justice one way or the other. Tomorrows reading of the accounts is far more important as I believe that will be the trigger to start the takeover ball rolling.

    But of course this all assumes that BIHL want rid of us. For which Ido have my doubts.

  • Marky mark says:

    Art

    Almajir has continually made us aware that no money had been pilfered or stolen or raped from the club and in fact nothing illegal has showed up in any books, to the best of his knowledge

    No football owners are transparent and we will never know the real transactions that take place, but I didn’t hear many moaning when the club were in the tip half of the prem and winning carling cups.

    CY is guilty of nothing as yet, and therefore your reasons for not going are without Justification

  • mark says:

    it continuely amazes me how people will hijack information, and assume these are facts, and I agree with marky mark comments that Almajir has continually made us aware that no money been taken from our great club. So art if you got time come join your blue brothers at St Andrews and support your team……

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  • mark says:

    Sorry Dan, my statement was directed at art comments at 6.10pm, and his further comments again at 7.15pm.please accept my humble apologies. I should pressed reply on arts comments.kro


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