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The Carson Trial – Day 20

Carson’s defence team scored a victory today as Judge Douglas Yau Tak-hong ruled that Carson will not have to be the first witness to stand for the defence as his trial entered its twentieth day.

Apple Daily (Cantonese only) reports that the defence’s application made yesterday for Carson Yeung to potentially stand witness last in his case rather than first as is the norm was succesful, with the judge ruling in their favour this morning.

The Hong Kong Standard reports that Carson’s defence team have advised that at least six witnesses will be called to give evidence, including a staff member from casino operators SJM Holdings, an accounts executive from Lippo Securities, two law firm experts who assisted Carson in property transactions and two financial experts.

The trial will resume on Monday, June 17 at 11am (4am BST)

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39 Responses to “The Carson Trial – Day 20”

  • Oldbluenose says:

    At last, !!. Progress, ?.

    The defence takes the floor, !!.

    To be continued, !!!!!!!.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    Is that a significant alteration, as, will it benefit Carson’s defence and if so, how?

    • almajir says:

      I think it is, because I don’t think they will want Carson to the stand if they can help it. This means they can wait and see if they bring him there.

      • StaffsBlue says:

        So there’s no chance that it could another delaying tactic, to try to gather more evidence for the defence?

      • Marky mark says:

        100% agree

        If he has to take the stand after all those witnesses it will be a desperation plea.

        • Stephen Wood says:

          Agreed Mark. The prosecution case is very damning. Carson would not want to face a barrage of Cross questioning. He is hoping his plea of innocence will have been answered by his witnesses before he has to take the stand himself. Being allowed to go last will take a lot of heat off him. I think he would have cracked under fire in the face of some damning evidence from the Prosecution. For me mate he is guilty as charged. No explaination what ever could justify the amount of money that went through his account in three years.

  • Big Al says:

    Think of all the accountancy and legal skills you’ve acquired these last 24 months!? Supporting Blues has so many add-on benefits these days.

  • ChrisG says:

    I have a sneaky suspition CY will get off all the charges, i’d bet he’s put together a pretty good defence team & they will have all the answers to where all of his money came from.

  • Thomas Hallberg says:

    What happens IF Mr.Yeung is found NOT GUILTY?
    Will he keep his control over the club?
    Will he be able to inject the much needed money?

    • almajir says:

      Well,I’d assume he’d remain in control and his assets would be unfrozen.

      Would he put money in? That bit I’m not so sure of – I’ve seen his account balances on the asset freeze order and they’re not that high at all.

  • DoctorD says:

    Al — you’ve probably mentioned this a zillion times and I’ve not been paying attention. But does CY have to prove the money is all from hunky-dory sources — or is it the prosecution’s job to prove beyond dobut that it’s dodgy. In other words, does CY get let off if it smells fishy but there’s still not definite proof?

    • almajir says:

      I’ll repeat what Graham Harris (defence counsel0 said on the first day of the trial – that the tactical onus is on Carson to prove his innocence.

  • Alex T says:

    So it took all day for the defense to argue and the judge to decide, that Carson should give evidence last??

    For anyone attending every minute of this, this must be the most boring trial ever!

  • RUPERT says:

    Here we go no the trial we have been waiting for so long becomes interesting. Don’t underestimate this carson yeung he is not as stupid as he looks with his daft coat and quotes!
    He will get off with this NOT GUILTY! That will certainly make things interesting round St Andrews!

  • KeepRightcroydOn says:

    If the onus is on CY to prove his innocence, my believe is that the odds are against him. Surely if he can show he attained his wealth through legitimate means, he would have provided the evidence to prosecutors before it got to trial. Whatever explanation he and his legal team give prosecutors before he was charged was clearly not conclusive enough, hence the trial. My guess is odds are probably stacked 70:30 against him. His main hope is that he has a brilliant defence team, one smart enough to outfox the prosecution team. The coming days are make or break for him.

  • AndyP says:

    Not only will he get off,his defence team will get him knighted in New Years honours list!!

  • JohnBond says:

    I hope he gets not guilty would be nice to see him put some money in make some of us happy, wonder what Clark will say if he gets sent down

    • StaffsBlue says:

      See you when you get out boss?

    • Steve Wood says:

      The thought that Carson Yeung will get off with these charges then pump money into the club to make it viable and successful are about as likely as The Villa wanting Mac Liesh back to make them successful and No1 team in Birmingham! Kapeish???

  • zxcv says:

    I think some of you are forgeting the judge is the only one who decides cy fate. There is no Jury and the defence in this case cant play to anyones emotions, the judge will want plain hard proof from the defence that there cliant has not commited these charges by showing where all his funds came from and if Tax was paid if due. Remember this is nothing like a normal trial with a jury.

    • Gary R says:

      Indeed, and if that’s the case and CY has convincing evidence of his innocence, then why hasn’t he used it before now? Hmm…maybe it’s because he doesn’t have anything. Someone hand him a shovel.

      • blue says:

        why would he gary?? if he had any half decent brief wouldn’t he tell him to say nothing ?
        or risk incriminating himself i’d have thought anyone facing serious charges would be better off trying to explain in court. when you know exactly what evidence the prosecution thinks it has, than to a investigator who’s looking for evidence AGAINST you,and looking to use anything you say, no matter how small,against you.

        i hope he’s cleared,if only as a thank you for the league cup :)

        • Steve-0 says:

          So if you’re arrested for something you didn’t do, you wouldn’t explain your innocence until you went to court???

          • blue says:

            personally in this case no. why say anything before steve? especially to someone who’s looking to find evidence to lock me up, he’s already doubting my innocence and questioning me in the first place. obviously I’d rather not go to court,but I’d rather wait to see if it goes to court first. innocent or not.
            it’s an officers job to gain more evidence against you, and a solicitors job to counter that evidence for you or to put doubt against the case. if you have said anything before court you could have made the solicitors job much harder,as even innocent actions and behaviors no matter how innocuous can and do get mistaken and twisted to suit the prosecution case.

  • Bluenosesol says:

    I see a lot of contributors who fantasise that if CY is found not guilty, he will have his assets unfrozen and proceed to buy our way out of the Championship. Alternatively, he might observe the wealth of hate that abounds for him and tell us to kiss his derriere!!

  • Leigh says:

    Is he REALLY hated ?? or has that only developed since his alleged criminal activities.

    • Gary R says:

      Yes, I think so – it’s his ‘alleged’ actions that have messed the club up. But it’s not just that, but it’s the vasts amount of money he’s allowing Pannu to take out in salary/consultancy fees that is also rubbing the nose of us fans in it. CY has the power to cut PP’s wages (CY is PP’s boss), yet he still allows him to be grossly overpaid. Yes, I think hate/dislike etc etc, is justifiable.

    • chas says:

      Of course he isn’t hated.. there may be a couple of dozen fickle fans who are all mouth and no trousers, but the Majority of sensible Fans would be only too glad for a bit of stability..It wasn’t Yeungs fault we went down, it was the Players, 100%..

  • mark says:

    Onus is on carson – I believe he played his first card….

  • Tony says:

    If he gets off there will be no money left to put into the club, he has to pay his defence team.

  • mark says:

    100% agreement

  • mark says:

    With you chas……….

  • Abbotsbromleyblue says:

    OP is there anything significant in the statement by BIH to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange today or is that just standart proceedure KRO

  • Happiness stan says:

    Thanks for the coverage of this trial,what happened to colin tattum and tom ross ,maybe there in the studio recording mr blue sky .

  • Steve says:

    This should be a laugh, given what has come out so far ..
    Be more believable to state he found the HKD 571 million dollars down the back of the sofa.

    Can they be serious ?

    • Steve Wood says:

      Absolutely Steve, he will come out of this unscathed & pledge all of his ill gotten gains to make a club to rival Man City. We will buy Messie , Villa & Ronaldo. And beat The Vile at Wembley in the FA Cup. It will be such a pity if the nasty judge finds him guilty, heaven forbid!

  • KeepRightcroydOn says:

    So far I don’t think it’s looking good for CY. The onus is on his defence team to show how he earned all that dosh legally. If they don’t come up with compelling evidence, he’s going to be in trouble. I have always thought it odd that his source of his wealth has been shrouded in mystery. Why? What has he to hide? Even before he was charged there were questions about how a barber became a multi-millionaire. To now claim that he made his fortune by gambling does seem fanciful.to me. I think he’ll struggle to prove his innocence.

    Personally I want him out of our club, whether he’s innocent or guilty. Becuase even if he’s acquitted, I doubt he’ll be in a position to means the club once he pays his legal bill.


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