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The Carson Trial – Day 32

Defence expert witness Ian Robinson continued to give evidence on the stand in Carson Yeung’s long running trial on five counts of money laundering at the District Court today.

HK Daily News reports that Mr Robinson was cross-examined by the prosecution with relation to Carson’s property wealth in the late nineties. The Prosecution pointed to liquidity problems suffered by Carson in 1998 and 1999 as evidence that he didn’t have much wealth, a claim that Mr Robinson refuted, saying that Carson owned many assets but was reluctant to sell. However, the prosecution pointed out that Carson’s home in Ying Piu Mansions, Mid-Levels had charges applied to it by two finance companies to force Carson to pay outstanding debts.

The case resumes tomorrow at 9:30am (2:30am BST)

Edit 2300 BST July 03 2013

Oriental Daily has produced this report about the day’s events.

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43 Responses to “The Carson Trial – Day 32”

  • Happiness stan says:

    I wonder if carson ever had a post office account.

  • Oldbluenose says:

    There dors not seem to be much of a strong defence, ??.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    I think this finally puts to rest the theory that CY/PP have spirited away millions to pay for the defence. If they had, they were robbed.

  • mark says:

    maybe the money was a donation, and Carson was keeping safe………………course it was his………..

  • mark says:

    Living on earth may be expensive,
    but it includes an annual free trip around the sun.

  • mark says:

    An investor to his advisor:
    Is really all my money gone?
    No, of course not. It’s just with somebody else!

  • Smudge says:

    New to this blog but have been reading with interest. Have to be honest if my freedom rested on this defence i would be seriously worried, I know that what is reported is only a fraction of what is actually going on but lets be honest the reports are not really gripping. I just want this finished and maybe some future plan will start to come to fruition. Keep up the good work OP one of the best informative blogs i have read.

  • RUPERT says:

    What you think? Is he finished ? I still think he gets off!!

  • Stephen Wood says:

    The whole reply from the Defense has been a farce . It could make a great CARRY ON film. CARRY ON UP THE KONGO! Carson would be played by Burt Kwock (Pink Pather) & Pannu could be played by Oliver Hardy “Thats another fine mess youve gotten me into Carson !!

  • Master C says:

    Thanks for the updates, has been great reading so far. Can’t wait for the plot twist at the end when it turns out we were dreaming all along, and we’re actually still owned by the Kumars…. Aaaarrrrggghhhhh!!

  • mark says:

    http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/12/18/have-you-heard-the-joke-about-the-hsbc-money-laundering-settlement&view=comments maybe Carson will have his freedom it appears good for the goose but not the gander i wonder………………

  • StevieW says:

    I still reckon he will walk.

    I may be wrong but it seems to me that a lot of this case is based on hearsay as no records seem to be available for either the defence or the prosecution even though there appears to be volumes of paperwork that has been reviewed. No referral to any specific exhibits as evidence during the witness examinations.

    I know we get a truncated precis from OP but even reading the linked reports there does not appear to be much material substance flying about.

  • SteveC says:

    Laughable really ..
    Most people contributing to this site have more liquidity than Carson Yeung.
    He is just a fantasist, soon sussed out by Sullivan, who was happy subsequently to take his ‘notional’ cash.
    Until the Football League introduce proper ‘benchmark test’ to establish the motives and financial probity of potential owners, we will have people like this and Gaydamak ‘trolling up’ and ruining established football clubs to pamper to their vanity.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    I’m really not sure about Yeung’s wealth, or lack of it, to be honest. It seemed that he was putting money into the club at the start. It was only after he was arrested and his assets frozen that everything went tits up. Until we see something in black and white (not heresay) I don’t see how we can make a judgement. I’m not for or against at the moment, I’m just waiting to see what happens. I’ll go with the judge’s decision.

  • SteveC says:

    Thing is Staffs, using basic common sense ..
    do you think its likely that a hairdresser acquires tens of millions from speculating on the stock market and hoping he gets close to 9 at Bacarat every hand … ?
    Nope .. me neither.
    Do think he stands a reasonable chance of getting off but not as a result of the ‘defence testimonies’.

    He and Pannu in particular have been a disaster for our club, far worse than the Kumars even, ever were.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      I quite agree that they’ve been dreadful owners… but no one can say, with any certainty, that things would or wouldn’t have been different if this whole laundering affair hadn’t happened. I would like them gone, like everyone else, but until I see it in black and white, I’ll not make judgements. I’m not qualified to.

    • mark says:

      whether you like them or not success came with them 9th in premiership and a cup against the mighty Arsenal……….. yes they may have lived a life of grandeur then so do other people………….. do you think Chelsea millions are above broad??………i wouldn’t hold my breath…………and i sure where lots teams who are mis-managed give Rangers look and how the mighty Leeds fell from grace …… how many teams have fell into administration?? and felt the pain and anguish ….. one for Dan
      We are still here……….

  • dave mann says:

    even before the money laundering accusations came up, we still got relegated from the
    premier league with a cup winning side and most of them would have still left us to play
    in the premier league any way with the exeption of gardner so we would have still
    struggled with or without this case against him. its just the fact that its dragged on so
    lomg that were now feeling the pinch.KRO.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      We won the cup, then struggled with a lot of the same team. I put relegation firmly down to the manager and the players at the time. We should never have gone down from the position we were in.

  • dave mann says:

    PS. still cant wait for alfreton on saturday, gonna be hot..hot…hot.KRO.

  • SteveC says:

    Staffs, do you not think that this ‘charge’ and the sort of people Carson has been ‘dealing with’ are indicitive of the whold charade ?
    Of course he may be just a workaday hairdresser who got fabulously lucky.

    Have to dash got Angelina Joli for lunch followed by Shakira for afters.

  • Stevep says:

    If that’s all that happened today,how come it takes so long or why are the press not reporting more,it must be a boring trial

  • dave mann says:

    they just stopped playing after the arsenal cup win, thought theyed done enough to stay up
    but your right that side should never have got relegated, ii was trully criminal and one of the
    lowest points in my life supporting blues..KRO.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      To win just 2 out of the last 10 games after the Cup win was diabolical. Especially the last 4 games, when we drew with Wolves and lost to Fulham, both at home. That’s what killed us, not lack of cash… but lack of committment and pride.

      • mark says:

        sometimes players are payed too much, their heads get to big they lose the passion and drive for the game…………….. it eventually all comes down to money…………

        • StaffsBlue says:

          I know most of the squad left when we were relegated… but to be honest, I wasn’t too unhappy to see the back of most of them. I think when you’re relegated, it needs a good clear out, to take away the bitter taste and more importantly, to get rid of the losing mentality.

        • StaffsBlue says:

          I know most of the squad left when we were relegated… but to be honest, I wasn’t too unhappy to see the back of most of them. I think when you’re relegated, it needs a good clear out, to take away the bitter taste and more importantly, to get rid of the losing mentality. We were in the doldrums for a while at the start of the following season, but you could see the determination to put things right as the season wore on. They only just fell short.

  • dave mann says:

    i didnt mean the lack of cash because we lost that before the champiomship season began
    its the players we lost and theyed leave anyway carson yeung or not. but those same players
    showed loads of commitment and pride in winning the carling cup 2 months earlier so blame
    them for relegation but you can also BLAME them for the cup win also.KRO.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      The cup win was fantastic.. and well-deserved, whatever the sore losers of Arsenal would say.. but the season should never have been the anti-climax it was. A bit more effort in certain areas… and 2 more points would have been enough.

  • John says:

    Where is today’s court paragraph

  • evilcherry says:

    With another High Profile trial reached its conclusion in HK I guess this would get a bit more media attention. At least.

  • John says:

    Have the press give up on printing the last 2. Days hearing

  • John says:

    Any news when Thursdays will be uploaded mate

    • almajir says:

      Nothing in the press about the trial, so I don’t think it will be. Sorry.

      Edit: I’ve got about two lines in one newspaper, just going to translate it now.

  • Will says:

    can someone tell me if he’s looking more guilty or non guilty?


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