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Stuck with King

Marlon King played ninety minutes as a side of youngsters and trialists lost 4-2 to a Wolves development squad at the Wolves training ground on Tuesday. Despite taking the lead 2-0 via an own goal and a Lovenkrands effort, Blues couldn’t hold on and were pegged back to 2-2 by half time.

I’ve seen a lot of talk online about Blues allowing King to leave St Andrews on a free transfer. Most of it follows a familiar theme – the London-born Jamaica international has been top goalscorer at Blues for each of the last two seasons and the fear is amongst many Blues fans that without his goals that the team will struggle. There has also concern been expressed about allowing Marlon to play for a division rival which could come back to haunt us further.

I can see why people are unhappy that Marlon is effectively training with the kids – he has been, for all intents and purposes dumped to the sidelines along with Peter Lovenkrands as Lee Clark weighs up his options without the pair in his team. Marlon’s games against Worcester and Wolves have allowed him pre-season game time to prove his fitness without Clark having to take game minutes away from players he intends on keeping this season – which to me makes sense because Clark wants to know how his forwards will get on without King in the equation.

I will admit that I have a fairly controversial opinion on this in that I think the team plays better without King in it. I’ve opined before that the statistics point to a marginally better points per game return without King in the team and I thought our best period last season results-wise coincided with a run of games without Marlon in the XI. Furthermore I think something has to be said about the lack of interest in Marlon; if he was as highly rated as some seem to think then surely he’d have been snapped up on a free. Unfortunately, the fact is at 33, on high wages with dodgy knees and a dodgier past Marlon King doesn’t represent the greatest of bargains even when no transfer fee is involved and thus I think he might not actually go anywhere.

That of course would leave Lee Clark in a pickle. Of course, if Blues hit the ground running and start scoring goals for fun then I don’t believe it will be so much of a problem but any hint of struggling for goals, injuries or whatnot and Clark is going to face the tough decision whether to bring back King into the team or to continue to leave him on the sidelines. For my money, if we get to the situation where we can’t sell him or loan him out then we have to make use of him, whether Clark likes it or not. However, I do think the best situation for all parties concerned is that King gets a contract somewhere else.

With financial fair play regulations getting tighter and tighter I fear that this situation is one that clubs in this division will have to get used to; there will be less room to offer long contracts on higher wages to players and thus any such contracts will represent a huge gamble from owners because if they don’t come off, they will be stuck with those players until their contract finishes or until a compensation figure can be agreed. It’s a tough situation for Clark as without any of the quartet of King, Lovenkrands, Mullins and Ambrose moving on (not to mention Zigic) I don’t think he can manoeuver any further in the transfer market and he’s going to be stuck with what he has for the forseeable.

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127 Responses to “Stuck with King”

  • JohnR says:

    I am one of the unhappy fans at the way Clark has treated King. To bore you again by repeating myself King has been our top goal scorer for the past two seasons and without him I don’t think we have enough goals in the team.

    • paulblues111 says:

      His goals we will miss but we managed very well towards the end of the season without him.
      The management staff won`t miss him around the first team group Ive said it before …Bad influence around the youngsters

      • Pete says:

        Who says? What do you base that on? He has a bad past but what has he done around the youngsters that makes him a bad influance? I know someone who is working with him, and King spent an extra 2 hours working with this kid for the sake of wanting to help him improve. I understand the tactic by Clark to leave him out, but will not accept he has done something wrong being given as an answer unless he actually has WITH BLUES IN THE PAST 2 YEARS.

      • Carlos says:

        I love all king in the team king out of the team stats but nobody has asked what if he was in the side for the games he missed maybe the play offs? I for one keep thinking about Wes Thomas and his wonkey foot king would have burrried that sitter

    • phil says:

      King has been top goalscorer and he has turned many fans around with his goalscoring prowess.
      Sadly, we can’t afford his wages and needed to make him available on a free transfer to any club that might have him.
      I don’t think Clark can be blamed for mis treating him and banishing him to play with the kids. I don’t think that is his intention. He needs him to get game time in case he goes nowhere so he can call on him whenever.
      King is big enough to understand that Clark has his hands well and truly tied because of the financial mess that we are in.

    • Northern Exile says:

      I’m one of the unhappy fans at the way King has treated women, and I don’t really have much sympathy for him if he’s surplus to requirements. With another legal incident currently hanging over him (the car crash thing), I think the club may have been forced somewhat into trying to get rid of him as if that blows up then it can only bring the club into further disrepute. The club is better off without characters like that, however talented they may be, and I agree that the team seems to play better without him in it – maybe because he doesn’t endear himself to the rest of the squad, either?

      • almajir says:

        Northern Exile – FYI, I’ve mentioned this before but the car crash thing is NOt hanging over King.

        • Northern Exile says:

          Fair enough. I’m slightly out of the loop regards news on that front. And I want to make clear as well that I don’t believe that players guilty of misdemeanours in their past shouldn’t be allowed to return to their job, just like anyone who has done their time – I just don’t think King is a good character to have around the club at this time.

          • paulblues111 says:

            Spot on Northern Exile

          • StaffsBlue says:

            As far as I’m aware, King has kept his nose clean since he’s been at St Andrews. There’s absolutely no proof that he’s been anything but professional in the last two seasons. It’s all Chinese whispers (excuse the pun). It’s churlish to keep bringing up his past. HE’S PAID FOR HIS CRIMES, GET OVER IT!

            He was bought to score goals, which is exactly what he’s done. No more, no less.

          • almajir says:

            It might be churlish but it is worth noting that whilst he did the time he has never ever shown remorse.

          • StaffsBlue says:

            Duly noted. But he was bought to score goals, which is what he’s done.

          • Pete says:

            Northrn exile- as I said before, what is it you base it on that he has been a bad character OR influence over the past 2 and a bit years? I have asked what he has done that means you can say that? Or for that matter what suggests that he has not gotton on with team mates in the past 2 years, as I have seen no evidence of that.

            I was not happy about signing him, and have no problem with LC making a decision he has to get him out of the club- BUT I will not base this on making up comments about what he has been like or how he acts around the club, with no evidence to support it!

            Dan has already said numerous times he has no legal matter hanging over him, but mud sticks and you just made an assumption on his being at fault and there being a case to answer- so now that it not the case, what has he done to make him a rotton apple in the dressing room?

  • Jimbo Jones says:

    Don’t mean to be pedantic but the game was at Wolves’ training ground, not Wast Hills.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    I’m one of those who hopes that King stays. I’ve always liked him, as a player, and always will. At the end of the day, he’s a 15-20 goals-per-season man. Priceless these days.

  • Oldbluenose says:

    Surely, Marlon is being paid by the club, !!. Why waste his wages, [ if he is still with us ] and knowing he CAN score goals too boot, ?.

  • trevorblue says:

    I to like Marlon and cant argue that we were better without last season buts whats to say that it wont work and click witth a new team this season,he may be even better witth Novac or Green

  • Bluemat says:

    Its funny how opinions differ, I don’t personally see how you can compare the 1st part of last season with the 2nd part. The 1st part of last season was truly the most inept performances froma blues team I have ever seen that partnered with some of the strangest and non directional management. For the 2nd part of the season when we got our act together marlon was mainly out injured. So I for one would have actually liked to see king in the team when the performances got better. I just don’t see how the 1st and 2nd parts of the season can be compared and how you can judge long of the back of that as there’s nothing to compare him to. Kro!!

    • almajir says:

      Is it possible the team played better without King in it?

      • StaffsBlue says:

        You can’t say either way for sure… because Marlon was banging in goals when the team were playing crap. How many might he have scored when we finally clicked? I believe he would have got 25 goals last season if he hadn’t been injured. But, I can’t prove it, anymore than you can prove he wouldn’t have.

      • Flying Doctor says:

        If there was one player the team played better without, i’d have said it was Caldwell. Robbo coming into the centre made a huge difference. Wouldn’t be totally sure regarding King out of the team.

        • almajir says:

          Zigic has bene available for free for the last two years, no one wants him.

          • AF says:

            If we are making the most of Marlon’s ability and he is scoring goals in the first team, then other clubs will want him and might offer him a good contract, even a fee? If he’s left to rot in the reserves nobody will take him on and we are in effect wasting his last year’s salary and contract. To me this is so ridiculous.

          • Pete says:

            Dan- if he has been available for free for 2 years now, why did we sign him 2 years and a month ago if we could not afford him at the time. Not trying to be pedantic, but are you saying Mr Pannu did such a deal that was not based on any financial logic as it would not work from the minute we signed him?

  • Richard Granfield says:

    Clark has made his mind up over King and we must respect his decision.
    As a parallel, don’t expect Caddis to feature in tonight’s friendly for Swindon. He was neither in the starting X1 nor on the bench last night against Spurs.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      Blackpool beckons! How ironic, that we take Blackpool’s right back, because we couldn’t sign Caddis.

      • Pete says:

        Te irony is Blackpool wanted Eardley and we wanted Caddis- so we all get what we did not want…!

        • StaffsBlue says:

          It was a shame we missed out on Caddis, I liked him. But, I’m quite happy with Eardley. He can attack as well as Caddis and pops in the odd goal. But, defensively, I think Eardley is better. Caddis was a bit suspect with his positioning and over his head.

          We’ll see this season… comparisons are bound to be made.

  • tmsblues says:

    This relates to the point I made yesterday. Rather than finding further recruits Blues need to be finding new homes for these 4 players asap. Loaning them on a shared salary no matter what % is better than having them hanging around the club drawing full pay and affecting morale. If Clark has made the call that he doesn’t want them and in partic King and Loevenkrands, then he’s going to look pretty silly having to eat his words. In in such circumstances he’ll look weak to the rest of the squad. Shift em out Clark, after all you did bring in the three failures amongst them.

  • WelfordBlue says:

    Why have the club not taken the same appraoch with Zigic then? King brings more to the team in terms of goals, which is what the game is all about really, than any other forward we have (based on last season) It seems silly not to utilise him whilst he can still wear the shirt. I always thought we looked better with him in the team tbh

    • KeepRightcroydON says:

      WelfordBlue, The club have tried to get rid of Zigic in previous windows, but nobody wanted to take on his wages, and it appears he (no doubt backed by his agent) did not want to take a cut. Just imagine if no one wants to take on King’s salary of around £20K, what chance do we have of convincing anyone to take on Zigic on his reported salary of over £50K. In practical terms, it’s just not possible to get rid of Zigic which is why LC has given up trying.

      As for King, yes his goal scoring record over the last two seasons was very good, but LC has made his mind up, so it would be best all round if he moves elsewhere and LC can concentrate on his plans for this season. But as Dan says, it could end up being a tricky situation if we can’t move him on. Then LC would be under pressure to include him in his plans, especially if things go pear shaped.

  • Marky mark says:

    I think LC expected king to be snapped up and left him out of the first team pre season.
    Unfortunately its a no win situation for LC and yet another issue caused by the clubs pathetic owners.

    King simply has to feature if he stays which makes a mockery of preseason.

    An unhappy King is not what you want in the dressing room, I would imagine him to be a right nightmare.

  • BhamCityJulian says:

    I agree with you 100% on King.

    To those of you who rate King so highly ask yourselves why another Championship haven’t come in for him with preseason almost over.

    • Flying Doctor says:

      He’s been injured since January, getting on a bit & probably on good wages for Championship level. Won’t suprise me if he’s still here til Jan at least. He’s got to prove his fitness first.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      I don’t know the answer to that. Do you?

      His past misdemeanors mean nothing… he’s paid his dues there. And, as far as I’m aware, he’s never been a bit of trouble since he’s been at our club. He’s a natural goalscorer too. So, the only reason I can think, is either wages, or the injury to his knee. If it is the injury, then he’s not getting much chance to prove he’s over it is he? For me, if he’s not gone by now, it’s maybe down to the club… either not trying hard enough to find him somewhere else, or not allowing him to prove his fitness. Is there some clause in his contract about him playing any more games?

      It’s strange that it’s only King and Lovenkrands who have been ostricised from the first team scene.

    • phil says:

      because of his wages and age maybe? Just a thought.

      • StaffsBlue says:

        He came in after we were relegated, so I doubt he’d be on astronomical wages, like Zigic. At least he’s been well-worth his wages.

  • Geoff Smith says:

    If we can pay Zigic nigh on £60k a week, what is the point in paying two other goal scorers not to play !!

  • Bcfc1955 says:

    This is a no brainer for a manager
    He has a player in his squad who he has been told will have to be moved on because of financial constraints
    It would be ludicrous for the manager to involve King in the pre season team matches to see him go two days before the season starts
    If he does not get sold and our management! Decide he will stay this year the the manager can look to integrate him back in the squad
    For what it is worth I also believe that last season the team played better when King was not in the side, this may be related to his injury problems but are they a fact of life for him given his age and the type of injuries he had

  • Tony says:

    King has to play for my money hes a proven goalscorer, Lovenkrands too its only been a couple of years since he was banging them in iin the premiership for Newcastle.
    I dont understand the argument that we play better without King he was out injured for the second half of the season as for the first half he was scoring plenty in a team that was truly hopeless ,poorly led,on and off the pitch, and lacking in moral.
    Lovenkrands was awful last season, but if you are talking about class then he King and Zigic are your three strikers.

  • Chris Walker says:

    I think the system that Lee Clark is trying to play this season will not suit King with his age and knees.
    I also think that some of the early problems last season were behind the scenes squabbles which saw some rather poor displays whereby certain players didn’t perform and cost us dearly, this is speculation I know.
    Never been a great fan of King but he was available when we needed someone and, like so many has beens in the twilight of their careers did just enough. people bang on him being a 20 goal a season striker, he has only achieved that twice in his career, Gillingham in Div one and Leeds in the championship and only hit double figures in 5 seasons on a career spanning 21 seasons.
    At the end of the day King has had his day and I think it would be better to stick with the young players regardless, for those old enough, look at Manchester United and the “Busby Babes”
    Lee has gathered a bunch of young, hungry group of talented players who can take the bull by the horns and storm up the league, with the experienced players picking them up when things go wrong.

  • river says:

    i think its plain to see that LC is trying to find his starting 11 and he has to do this without king in his plans for obvious reasons.what would happen if he started king in all pre season games to then have to wave goodbye to him before the season even kicks off?we would be left with a replacement that didnt have that chance of starting pre season,so he has to give others a chance to prepare for his departure.he may not go but the team has to be ready KRO

  • StevieW says:

    I agree the team did seem to perform better without King and the stats do qualify that.Also I believe that it may have been an issue in the dressing room when King was around as the want to play attitude shown on the field after he was injured was markedly different than when he was playing.

    Also history is fine but I think LC is looking forward not backwards at what people have more of what people can do in the future and obviously King isn’t on his radar.

  • Smudge says:

    I understand LC leaving him out of the preseason training camp, believing that he would have been gone but now we all know that is not the case would it not make sense to use King in some capacity. Yes he is 33 and probably has dodgy knees but surely if we are looking to win a game King could be the perfect impact sub to use for the last half an hour. Maybe LC should have a chat with MK and tell him he is not going to play to many games but there will be times when he will be needed even if it is to make the opposition defense think a bit more. In summary if the club is paying his wages then surely it would make sense to use him (even if its a shop window effect).

    • StaffsBlue says:

      Agree with all that. Also, there have been a lot of good players with dodgy knees. Doesn’t mean they’re past it.

      If King’s future is away from St Andrews, I hope he gets fixed up soon. The club owes him that much.

  • Evesham blue says:

    I’m surprised king can’t get a club. The others I can understand. I don’t really understand why Ambrose and Mullins have been allowed back in the fold and King hasn’t been.

    Why sign extra strikers when we haven’t offloaded any yet? Thought we couldnt afford them?Sign Asante and ship him out straight away?

    Seems odd decision making. The club is stuck with them. How many strikers we got on the books?

    • tmsblues says:

      Totally agree. How can you leave King to one side, and keep out and out failures like Muggins and Ambrose in the camp? And when we have lots more player choice in midfield and little up front. This makes no sense business or finance wise as the three Clark signings combined salaries are much greater than King’s … So ship out the 3 first ! Interesting footnote… Look at the headlines on Qxfords site about the Blues visit. The headlines are all about the power of the Blues squad… Zigic, King, Ambrose, Loevenkrands, and Mullins. They obviously haven’t seen them play !!

      • Pete says:

        Because if your new system is going to play 3 centre-halves and you only really have 4 including Spector (as packwood is injured) – do you want him to get rid of the centre half he has. Also – we have no left wingers hardly, where Ambrose can play along with the thirs supporting midfielder this structure demands. Where as Clark feels he has his players for up front.

        Makes sense to me.

  • AF says:

    We are all Blues fans and want to see our best team, our best players and the side winning. I think from this aspect with Marlon King’s goal scoring ability, it makes far more sense to keep him in and around the first team. If he looks fit, scores a few goals then other clubs will show an interest. Otherwise its a total waste of his contract and salary.

    Brave move by Lee Clark and I think a decision that is based upon determination but not a logical one. If it goes wrong then I believe he will look very stupid. Determined in his beliefs but are those beliefs correct?.

    Good leadership is about making the most of the resources at your disposal and here we are not making the most of a very expensive resource.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      It might not be Lee Clark’s decision to move him on. He might not have had much choice in the matter. He’d have to be pretty stupid to leave out our top goalscorer for the past 2 seasons, on a personal issue. My guess is that it’s down to TPTB.

      • AF says:

        And if we can’t move him on we have a 15-20 goals per season striker, costing £15-£20,000 per week languishing in the development squad.

    • tmsblues says:

      Yes otherwise by the same logic you leave Zigic to play for the Academy too !!

  • David says:

    I’m not to keen on King either. Yes he knows how to find the back of the net but how many times was he caught offside. A really frustrating player imo and I agree with Al that we play better without him.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      If we’d had a playmaker with half a brain, King would have scored another 10 goals at least last season. He’s not blessed with blistering pace, so he plays on the shoulder of the defender. He needs a pass slipped through quickly, so he can turn and get a shot off, or turn a run on to the pass. He was making the runs, but not getting the passes, which is why he was often caught offside.The nearest we had was Morrisson, but even he was by no means perfect. His pass to Wes Thomas is the kind of ball I’m talking about.. but how many times did we see passes like that last season?

  • StaffsBlue says:

    Millwall 3-3 Birmingham City. People have short memories.

  • Art Watson says:

    Yep and I think Clark is making a big mistake.

    King was the big difference in some of the key games which pulled us out of the mire.

    Who’s going to score the 14 goals in half a season.?

  • dave mann says:

    i bet anyone on this blog that matt green doesnt score 14 goals by march, or more than
    18 goasls all season, king would guarrantee that if he played reguerly and injury free.
    we may play better without him but were score more goals with him.
    he should be kept on purely for that reason but ofcourse as always the finances
    dictate that this is not possible…..ah well.KRO.

    • StaffsBlue says:

      I’ll keep my money in my pocket Dave. Green’s record is good… but he’s untried at this level. I really hope he proves a big hit though. Shinnie scored a few, but again, he’s untried at this level. Other than King, I can’t see another player who has 10-12-15 goals in them.

    • KeepRightcroydOn says:

      I don’t have the stats, but goals did come from a lot of different players around the pitch in the 2nd half of last season. So why not this season too. It’s nice to have a prolific goal scorer, but I don’t really care who scores, whether it’s one guy scoring 15 – 20 goals, or several players sharing it around with the same net result. I’d be happy of a couple of our players score around 10-12 each and several other players scoring 6 – 8 each. If goals come from several positions it makes it tougher for the opposition to make plans.

      I should add this is not meant as an argument for shipping King. Just saying it would we great if we’re not over-reliant on one player to score goals. This was the case in the second half of last season. Unfortunately three of those threats, Davies, Redmond & Morrison have gone, so hopefully others will take on the challenge.

      • KeepRightcroydOn says:

        It would be interesting to see how much of a threat we post at corners when the two big centre halves join Ziggy in the box.

  • jazzzy786 says:

    Anyone else noticed that Lovenkrands has scored 3 goals in 2 games.

  • dave mann says:

    thats lovenkrands goal tally for the season then jazzy/786, he wont score again!.KRO.

  • oldburyblue says:

    The Club does not owe ANY player anything. They are all well paid to do what is deemed best for the Team. There is no loyalty and all players have gone or would go if they felt it was best for them personally.
    If King, Lovenkrands, Mullins and Ambrose do not move on it is because their well-paid Agents have not earned their money or the players themselves have turned down moves. If no-one wants them it is because other Teams don’t rate them enough to take them on.
    As long as they are all kept as fit as possible they can all be used as and when required. Kevin Phillips was used by ourselves, Blackpool and Palace as basically a Super-Sub. Why can’t we use King the same way if he is still on our books?

  • dave mann says:

    when ferguson comes were be a danger at freekicks as well as corners with those three
    big guys in the opposition box, it looks like a lot of our goals will be scored from corners
    and freekicks this season, but a few from open play would be nice.KRO.

  • KeepRightcroydOn says:

    Off topic, it appears CY will not take the stand
    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-carson-yeung-wont-5116959 which implies that the defence team reckon they already have a good case. Surprises me as to me it looked like their defends was very flimsy.

    • Richard Granfield says:

      I disagree. What I infer from this decision is that the defence doesn’t want the prosecution to cross-examine Carson.
      The decision closes the trial except for closing arguments from the prosecution and defence counsels and the verdict from the judge.

      • KeepRightcroydOn says:

        That’s a very fair point that I had not considered.

        • KeepRightcroydOn says:

          Oops! Somehow escaped my notice. But isn’t strange that the Birmingham Mail has taken so long to cotton on?

          • StaffsBlue says:

            Really? This is the Birmingham Mail we’re talking about. They don’t do news… only history. :)

    • almajir says:

      Croydon – as posted on this site on FRIDAY. Keep up ;)

  • mark says:

    It appears shabba finding the net, has king scored yet??

  • mark says:

    Dan – are writing anything regarding why carson not taking the stand??

    • almajir says:

      No, because I can’t. Legal reasons.

      • oldburyblue says:

        In English Courts the Judge has to tell the Jury what inferences they can and cannot make as a result of a defendant not taking The Stand. It would appear that there is no Jury in this Case so The Judge can make his own inferences!

  • Blues says:

    If it wasnt for Kings 14 goals before Jan/Feb we would have been in massive trouble at the bottom of the table. For me we have to keep him, by far the best finisher at the club and will score goals when he plays. FACT!

    • jazzzy786 says:

      King is a decent player but extremely frustrating as he is probably more offside than any blues striker I’ve ever seen. If we can’t get rid of him or shabba I hope LC keeps them as well as Ambrose and Mullins in his plans. We are after all playing their wages and as long as they are Birmingham City players they should be treated as part of the squad and played on merit. We cannot afford to treat players as cast offs.

  • SteveC says:

    No one cares about Carson, forget the aged hair crimper, he has done enough damage !
    As for King, he has been tremendous for 2 seasons at Birmingham, I was not convinced about getting him but he has ‘done the business’ for 2 seasons running. Yes he’s injury prone but when fit is as good as any striker in this division.

  • Zenzero says:

    Agree with alot of the comments on here that King being injured, didnt conflict with our results improving. King has saved our skin plenty of times and i think leaving him out could be a mistake. Id use him as a sub personally, though ive just got this feeling that Green will really step up to the mark. It seems hes got alot of traits suited to this level and with a bit of determination, he could bag a fair few goals this season.

  • Michael says:

    Clarke wasn’t going to take King with him on a pre season tour, he said he is a free agent atm so taking King with him and the blues squad may have prevented him from moving on, to another club.

    It is only speculation that King wont be including in the squad next season if he hasn’t moved on. Clarke knows King can score, he knows how he can play.

    Have some faith lads, a lack of faith is what has kept us in the Championship the last two seasons, not the squad. Do you really think if we had 28,000 fans at St Andrews week in week out last season that wouldn’t have helped?

    Instead we had half our fans sitting down in silence and the other singing “how shit must you be were winning at home” in those rare circumstances that we went 1-0 up.

    Kro

  • Tony says:

    you can’t use the fact that the team played better without king in the latter part of the season as a reason to drop king.As a team they improved and as a manager so did clark so to put this down to king is ridiculous.Zigic as a holding player isn’t better,as a goal scorer is poor and for effort is garbage.I for one would pick king ahead of Zigic every time.

  • Tony says:

    Whats all this rubbish about undesirables at the club? since when have footballers been good role models?. Anyone who thinks of them as such is an idiot.Probably the two most talented british and NI players of the last twenty five years were George Best and Paul Gascione both complete nutters but so what?.
    They had the very rare ability to get you off your seat thats what matters not their attitude to women, fighting, or anything else, personally I couldnt care less what they did of the field it was a,great thrill to see them play.
    As for remorse well thats up to them but a true genius is a one off, rules do not apply, we are talking Football here not Sunday school teachers.

    • almajir says:

      I trust you apply those morals and ethics to Carson et al

    • StaffsBlue says:

      Footballers were good role models years ago. The likes of Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Geoff Hurst, et al, were fabulous role models for kids, every footy fan aspired to be them.

      Unfortunately, with today’s footballers, their brains have been replaced by bank accounts.

  • Richard Granfield says:

    Blues have a trialist on the subs bench tonight who has been released by Hednesford, Cheltenham and Tranmere in the last few years! Not exactly the most impressive CV. His name..Adam McGurk.

    • almajir says:

      Six years on the books as a kid across the expressway too…

      • mark says:

        Dan – also kop a serious knee injury…… but like any player given the opportunity to shine under different circumstances you never know……………………..

  • Tony says:

    Whats happened to the guy from Celtic Paddy?.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    H/T: Swindon Town 0-1 Birmingham City (Novak, 40)

    • mark says:

      Burke had a really good half – we way we are playing we should win by canter in the second half imo

  • mark says:

    Swindon’s workout against Tottenham last night will take it’s toll a little surely, maybe blues can bang some more goals in……..

  • mark says:

    blues appear to have fell asleep giving swindon two quick opportunity from the off at the start of second half……….

  • StaffsBlue says:

    We’ve started the 2nd half with the same XI. Playing 4-3-3.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    Swindon Town 0-2 Birmingham City (Novak, 58)

    • StaffsBlue says:

      Mullins on…. as a centre back again. Has he been converted?

      • almajir says:

        Hi Staffsblue

        Please don’t take this the wrong way mate, but I really am not appreciating the minute by minute updates of the games in the comments bits here – it’s not what the blog was designed for. Can I suggest you join a forum to discuss real time live events like that (especially when they’re not on topic with the article)?

        Thanks

        • StaffsBlue says:

          Message received.

          • almajir says:

            Thanks.

            Like I said, I value your input… but I’d prefer to keep it to the article itself… I have to read over 100+ comments a day as it is.

          • mark says:

            bit of hum bug there Dan if you are receiving over 100 comments on each of your blogs you done bloody marvelous i say mate………..

      • mark says:

        imo staffsblue great that Clark continues to be inventive and using players to cover all bases….. i said before that ambrosia and Mullins can be used in another positions…….

  • mark says:

    blues managed to win 3-0 without king????
    so who needs king??

    • Chris Walker says:

      I agree, who needs King, his record is not that great and I wouldn’t call him prolific, he has only achieved 20 goals in two seasons and double figures in 7 out of 21.
      To be prolific, imo, you have to hit double figures every season, King has a career average of approximately one goal every 3 games, 2.9 for those who want to be pedantic.
      Lee Clark has decided, though lack of funds have dictated mostly, he wants to play youngsters and an attacking formation like 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 or 3-5-2, he may want to use King from the bench if the youngsters start to flag or we need fresh legs and dodgy knees up front towards the end of a game.
      Players have no loyalty anymore, they only have £££’s and noughts. King will get paid if he plays 90 mins or sits in the stands.
      Someone mentioned role models, I remember Trevor Hockey coming out of the players entrance one November night and as it was foggy he offered me and my mate a lift home to Marston Green, how many modern day players would do that to supporters, out of the blue…
      Tonight’s game at Swindon ended 0-3 with Novack and Shinnie on the scoresheet, so with Green, Ziggy, Bartley, Burn, Burke and Elliot all chipping in with 2 or 3 plus how can anyone be saying where will the goals come from?
      All this pessimism before the season has started when we should be getting ready for 3rd August and behind the team with optimism, this is going to be an exciting season the way LC is setting his stall out, who knows, we could be the championships Barca and Matt Green our Messi.
      KRO

  • mark says:

    again Clark is moving in the right direction as far as i am concerned no player is bigger than the club that includes Ziggy imo……………

  • Block11 says:

    To quote a Worcester player King played against the other day, ’35K a week, I’m not going anywhere.’


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