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Lingard Loan Extended

Blues have today confirmed the extension of Jesse Lingard’s loan from Manchester United until December 14. Lingard, who has made four appearances for Blues scoring five times had initially been on a month’s loan with the club.

The loan of Lingard does show some of the limitations of the loan system; the loan can’t be extended any further than December 14 due to the fact the Warrington-born England u21 international turns 21 the next day and can no longer be loaned out on a “youth loan”. It’s my understanding (although this may be flawed) that his loan could be then extended as  an “emergency loan” for a further period of time should it be suitable to all parties but should Blues want to make it a “standard loan” then one of their other four loans would have to be terminated as only four standard loans can be in operation at any time.

Lee Clark has been quoted in the Birmingham Mail as saying that Lingard exceeded his initial expectations; I think that this is a view shared by most Blues fans after a sensational debut where Lingard scored four times in a spell that blew away Sheffield Wednesday. However, I think that his loan spell has been more than just about goals; it has given us balance up front in the 3-4-3 formation and has allowed Burke to be played in a much freer, more creative and attacking role which in turn has massively benefitted the team.

In the meantime, young American defender Will Packwood has been loaned out to League Two side Bristol Rovers to get some first team football under his belt as he finishes his recovery from a horrific leg break sustained against Leeds United back in January. With Blues currently being fairly settled at the back it’s a good opportunity for Packwood to get some minutes on the pitch and continues a policy which has seen a lot of the younger players loaned out this season to aid their continuing development – currently Amari’i Bell (Nuneaton Town), Ryan Higgins (Tamworth), Reece Hales (Worcester City), James Fry (Leamington FC) and Jean Kalenda (Stourbridge) are out on loan.

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47 Responses to “Lingard Loan Extended”

  • hiya says:

    What you think on GPs comments last night blown his chances?

    • almajir says:

      As I’ve said on other, more relevant stories I’m not commenting as of yet until I know more here.

      • maurice walters from thailand says:

        Al i was te same as you (not sure) but i must admiit GP did impress me i am hooked

  • StaffsBlue says:

    Good luck to Will Packwood and all our other youngsters out on loan.

    It looks like that bald geezer on the Football League SHow will be doing a piece about Lingard. There’s a pic on the Blues Wall.

  • Chris W says:

    Though good news short term it does make you wonder how some clubs seem to acquire more loans, though the fiasco of last season has seen that loop hole closed.
    Hopefully something can be arranged since we seem to have a good relationship with Man Utd and their academy.
    If, and it is a big if, someone comes up with an acceptable offer, we may be able to buy one of the 4 loans to free up another slot.
    I might be dreaming, but on the financial front that is all we have at present.
    Good idea to get some of our younger players loan spells and for Will too, well done LC, keep up the good work and for Sunday too.
    KRO

  • Richard Granfield says:

    I can see Packwood’s loan being curtailed if we get any more injuries to defenders. The injury to Spector is a particular problem because of his versatility.

  • mark says:

    Brilliant news, hope the lad feels settled here now. Hopefully he will continue scoring starting with Leeds on Sunday.kro

  • StaffsBlue says:

    With Spector out and Packwood loaned out, we’ll be short in at least 2 positions. I would think that it may open up a place for the likes of Mullins and possibly Higgins to be recalled, to cover the centre-back and right-back positions.

  • Chris says:

    Fantastic news for us and also him as he can keep gaining in confidence and ability’s

    Just a wonder as to why there is no follow up to GP interview understanding different time scale and maybe you wasn’t able to follow it Dan….

  • BigmanSteve0 says:

    I love the blues, I really do, I know there’s a lot going on but it just makes me love em even more.
    Kro sotv

  • sutton apex says:

    great news at a depressing time to be a blues fan !!

  • richard says:

    Interesting interview yesterday. One thing you may be able to clear up for me is apparently the blues have issued a statement saying Carson is not interested in a full disposal of the club? In that case they have no intentions of selling the club do they? So my point is i believe more and more palidini is right all along trading with a bunch of time wasters!!! Kro sotv!!

  • Darren Brown says:

    Great to have the kid for another few weeks but I hope he plays deeper in the games than against Bolton as he was wasted !
    Football is all about contacts/relationships with different clubs !
    My dream management would be Mike Phelan and the other Man U back room staff !
    I wanted Clarke (WBA) and Ray Wilkins before and as it proves he is doing very well !
    New owners please and a clean sweep !
    CV7Blue

    • mark says:

      Unfortunately gp wishes to retain lc so much foe your clean sweep. Also wants to support lc and give him money to spend……….. So all those still looking to rid clark really need to grow up.

      • Chris W says:

        After working under the current regime I think LC has earned the chance to perform without the shackles.
        Another reason to keep him is why bring in another manager to start from scratch again, thus disrupting the group of players who are fighting for the cause, even if results haven’t been kind I still think we have a nucleus on which to build, give LC some money, buy a couple of loans we have and bring in some experience to help the squad.
        KRO

      • StaffsBlue says:

        I’m convinced that, if Lee Clark left, whoever came in after, our young academy players wouldn’t get a look in. That’s not what I want to see. Millions spent on mercenaries, when we already have players who will sweat blue blood for the club. We need maybe a striker and a defensive midfielder. Other than that, we’re fine.

        • Chris W says:

          My sentiments exactly StaffsBlue…

        • mark says:

          Staffs I can tell here and now I am loving it…… All those high earners out all the way….players fighting for the blues shirts……..young players getting loan out to get them better equip and game time………

          • mark says:

            Tbh staffs those two positions spot on. I would have probably said the same mate……..

          • StaffsBlue says:

            Looks like Lee Clark is moving in that direction mark. According to the BM, he’s got Polish international Dariusz Dudka training with the club and, hopefully playing the development squad on Monday. He’s a defensive midfielder, with 65 caps. He can also fill in at full back and centre back. Ss he’s the possible replacement for Spector.

  • mark says:

    To further my comments further the daddy seems to have basically put his two fingers up at gp bid. So we appear as before. Carson holds all the cards…………….

    • StaffsBlue says:

      I have a horrible feeling that we’re going to be stuck with the present regime for the forseeable future. Whichever way you look at it… that’s bad news for the club, bad news for the manager… and the worst possible news for the fans.

      • mark says:

        Staffs I respect your comments, but if not guilty verdict arises…..and it possible carson is seeking further investment………firstly one must recongise at moment he not guilty…..whether behind the denied cat and mouse is happening it out of our hands, unless someone wishes to trump up the supposely sum of 32mil……gp has a disclosure imo he a very silly man………..

        • StaffsBlue says:

          I respect your views too mark, totally. But, whether Carson Yeung is guilty or not, isn’t the issue anymore. I hope the guy is innocent and gets off. But the fact is, this regime has been a total disaster, whichever way you look at it. Whether he puts money into the club or not, the damage has been done now… and it’s irreversible under this ownership. We’ll never get the players back we’ve had to sell and CY and PP will never get the respect of the supporters back. Like a marriage that’s gone bad… it’s time to sign the divorce papers.

          • mark says:

            Sometimes marriages can be saved lol it difficult for carson as he can leave hk. His reasons for keeping quiet makes sense. If found not guilty he will then have the rights to tell his side of the story. We all know how the media works, and how things can get twisted. I believe carson will want to be first to explain his actions once he is found not guilty. Imo obviously he want to return to birmingham because again it about saving face. Imo I believe this will possibly happen.

          • mark says:

            *cannot leave hk

  • Darren Brown says:

    Mark….
    Football is all about personal opinions and I wasn’t asking for massive transfer fees/huge wages !
    Young up and coming players as we’ve had and done very well with in the past (Larson).
    I know this is all in the future and I don’t want the current manager/owner to fail as this means my loved BCFC are failing !
    I would also set up our academy to be the best in the UK and bring British players forward.
    My friend is coach (A lic) at top North West team and he says all top teams have mostly foreign schoolboys not British.
    I only want the best for MY club that I supported in the eighties with very small gates and terrible football.
    CV7Blue

  • Darren Brown says:

    Big mistake !
    The Chinese way of business is normally very respectful and I think our new man to be has ruffled some feathers with his radio outburst !
    I currently import products from China and their culture and way of business is totally different to the rest of the World,
    Fingers crossed for a happy ending for my much loved BCFC.
    CV7Blue

    • StaffsBlue says:

      With respect, it was hardly an outburst. He spoke calmly and precisely. I’m sure he would have some kind of documentation to back up what he says. Myself, I’d rather have known these things than have been kept in the dark, like CY and PP have done.

      But, whther it’s done his cause any good to speak out… we’ll find out in the fullmness of time. Personally, I think he’s actually given up now and just wanted to get things off his chest.

      • Chris W says:

        It might not be good for BCFC, LC or the fans but I think anyone remotely interested in buying the club should hang back now and wait for administration.
        In doing so they will get the club at rock-bottom price, but I feel it is the only way we will be able to move forward.
        CY and PP don’t seem to be talking to each other so any deal PP signed would be worthless.
        I would have thought that from past experiences Mr Paladini would have known better than to believe or trust PP and his solicitors or agents would have negotiated through CY or BIHL agents/solicitors.
        I agree that CY should now sign the divorce papers as the relationship has irretrievably broken down, even if he ploughed millions into BCFC, finished the stadium and won the Champions League he would never be welcomed back at ST. Andrews or Small Heath for that matter.
        Just maybe, CY will be made aware of any offers and do the decent thing, announce the sale on the HKSE next week, sign the contracts and move on, I will not be holding my breath though.
        KRO

        • StaffsBlue says:

          As much as I hate the thought… and I’ve been absolutely against it from the start, I’m slowly coming round to the view that administration would be the only way to get rid of the ownership we have now.

          Although Gianni Paladini stated that we’re nowhere near admin, it makes you wonder.

          • Chris W says:

            I guess he knows more about the Blues financial position as he will have seen all the books, or at least his solicitors have.
            However, every month my bank balance on paper is in the black, unfortunately my bank statement always shows me in the red, the point I make is you can always dress up the figures to suit the occasion.
            The Golds found out the true state of the BCFC accounts after they took hold of the keys.
            Since PP has been doing the negotiating I wouldn’t trust him if he said the playing area was green and grass.
            The only reason I can see for administration is we can still claw back a 10 point deduction, but the longer we wait the harder it will become, which will almost certainly mean League one football next season.
            KRO

  • mark says:

    Sorry darren- I equally want what best for bcfc…… But the reality is staring us in the face……. Gp may have caused a storm but he has his own adgenda and he under a disclosure……….maybe gp realisation that he not getting bcfc has provoked this outcry….

  • mark says:

    Another man utd young loanee I like the look of is nick Powell playing at wigan

  • mark says:

    My other point I could like to raise clark has attempted to trump up blues in the media saying what a magincent club, and what great supporters we have, and I noted the response from some that it better that he shuts up. Firstly Why should he, for one is talking about our club and our players. Secondly for me he can talk about the blues as much as he likes imo………..the raised expectation from clark is thoughtly justify of tom a imo the midfielder has worked his socks……… Another10 players doing the same in the end you have team progressing in the right direction.kro.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2466364/SAM-ALLARDYCE-EXCLUSIVE-How-I-turned-bad-boy-Ravel-Morrison-around.html

    Only one sentence about Blues, with no credit whatsoever. The cheek of the bloke. I’ve always liked him, but my respect for Allardyce has nosedived. It was Lee Clark, leaving the player out, sitting him down and telling him a few home truths that turned Morrison around.. not Allardyce.

  • Art Watson says:

    GP may well have signed the “Intent to buy the club documentation”but this doesn’t mean the club has been sold or the offer price has been accepted by the board .

    I think his impatience and public announcements will see the end of him.

  • garconsavage says:

    I think that quite a few folks have been left with egg on their face in their haste to condemn Rossi.

    I wonder how many will “man up” and apologise? I seem to remember that the OP was particularly scathing when Tom first broke his story!! Is this why he is unusually reticent to comment now?

    What some people need to remember is that there was life before Social Media.

    When “Superboy” TF burst on the scene, he along with Jasper C. half of ELO and Gio used to “knockabout” together. If the consortium who Paladini represents is locally based Tom would be trusted and “kept in the loop”!!

  • Art Watson says:

    I for one was very critical of Tom Ross and still believe he was wrong to drop out snippets of information which led the supporters to believe the sale of the club was immiment in June.

    His enthusiasm for exclusively communicating the purchase of our club clearly ran away with him and as a professional reporter he should have waited until the deal was sealed.At the moment the deal is a long way from being sealed and Tom has covered his embarrassment by getting GP to make a statement on his radio show.

    It’s great for his ratings but frustrating for the true supporters who are desperate to hear factual news-good or bad.

    • John says:

      On the contrary Art,it was good to hear Paladini telling us facts. It was dissapointing to hear that “Blues” (who from Blues ?) put out a statement saying, they thought that what Paladini had said, was misleading and unhelpful. Are they saying he was telling lies ? At least he gave some information about his attempt to buy the club. What i understand from what he said,was that he had put an offer in to buy the club and that niether Pannu or Yeung had the decency to reply to him. All they had to say to him was,we will consider your offer and reply in due course. To say nothing, is rank bad manners. You can’t buy respect,you have to earn it. Pannu particularly,has shown nothing but contempt, to the club’s supporters.

      • StaffsBlue says:

        Have to agree.

      • Chris W says:

        Couldn’t put it better, 100% true about PP

        • Art Watson says:

          I think both PP and GP are both economical with the truth and I doubt very much that GP has given the fans the full facts behind his bid.He will tell them what he wants them to hear to gain their support and nothing more.

          I will not believe anything from PP -TR or PP until the HK stock market have been notified and that seems a long way off.

  • bluenoserob says:

    hope we get a result against leeds , our league postion is starting to worry me.

    • Chris W says:

      Not that worrying as to yet, although the teams below picked up some points we stayed the same today, a win would be good and we usually do well at Leeds recently.
      I will start to worry when we begin to run out of games, I think LC will have the right set up for tomorrow.
      KRO


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