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Double Trouble in Somerset: Yeovil Preview
It’s a long away trip to Somerset for the second time in a month as Birmingham City take on Yeovil Town in the Capital One Cup tonight. Both teams have been struggling for league form and both sides will be looking for improved performances tonight having lost at the weekend.
Yeovil Town
Since the league game against Blues the Glovers have been suffering somewhat in the goalkeeper department and it will be down to if parent club Wolverhampton Wanderers will allow Wayne Hennessey to continue between the sticks for Yeovil tonight. If they don’t, Yeovil will give a debut to Chris Dunn who signed in the summer after his contract at League One side Coventry City was terminated by mutual consent.
Yeovil’s other loanee Andy Williams is cup-tied which could mean recalls for Paddy Madden and James Hayter whilst defender Jamie McAllister is a doubt after taking a blow to the knee.
Blues
Blues have goalkeeper issues of their own with Darren Randolph taking a whack to the nose on Saturday and the former Motherwell keeper will more than likely miss out, meaning a place on the bench for youngster Nick Townsend.
Mitchell Hancox and Shane Ferguson both definitely miss out through injury, meaning Paul Robinson will likely have to shift to the left side of defence and a recall for Kyle Bartley in the centre. Akwasi Asante will continue to miss out with a tight hamstring and with a potential change in formation due to the injuries at the back there is the possibility of a recall for Chris Burke and Koby Arthur.
It really pains me to say this, because I am a believer that you should try to win every match but right now this one isn’t important. The key things for us are to get through it without any further injury blows; maybe to give some players who haven’t been in the team a chance to impress and maybe to work out a way how Chris Burke can play every game – I believe we have missed the Scot massively.
Tags: Capital One Cup, Chris Burke, Koby Arthur, Mitchell Hancox, Nick Townsend, Shane Ferguson, Yeovil Town
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I agree 100% about Chris Burke. What most concerns me is Clarke’s insistence at playing 3-5-2 at the expense of leaving out our best player. My belief is we should go 4-3-3 which becomes 4-5-1 when we are defending. I think the players we have are more suited to this system. IMO we don’t have players good enough to play wing backs.
John all this talk about formations surelly if the players are good enought you play them to me our best players when fit are RANDOLPH
EARDLEY BURN ROBINSON MURPHY
ADEYEMI SPECTOR
BURKE ALLAN SHINNIE
ZIGIC
whats your best team
I wouldn’t be averse to that team maurice… except the back 4 would be slightly lopsided with 3 left-footers. The rest I could live with.
OK Staffsblue name your back four
Dan- must disagree a Little…….. blues players who ever they are playing for the 1st team its about a winning mentality every game you should be looking to win……otherwise it pointless playing…….
It appears by your blog that both team are potentially evenly matched……For blues it not about finding the killer ball…… it about finding the back of the net, and keep hitting it, and killing teams off so they dont come back and bite you on the arse with 20 mins to go….blues have got to be more ruthless and learn to finish off teams……
Agreed, time to try out new formation and team selection etc, the result is of no importance.
LC needs to stop hiding behind the issues at the club and get on with his job to the best of his ability, his tactics and team selections are being questioned and rightly so. Dont get me wrong I appreiciate he has a difficult job to do but he is not getting the best out of this team right now and he needs to rectify it.
I still support him, but stop crying and get on with it !!!!
I don’t recall LC ever complaining about the situation that the owners have put the club in. Quite the opposite.
Same here. The only reason he has to keep reiterrating the financial problems in bringing players in… is because some fans are too thick to get it. He’s never ever complained once about the state of the club to my knowledge.
You need to listen to his interviews again, if he tells me once more about his financial restraints !!!!!
Just because there are issues (plenty of them) doesnt mean he is protected from criticism or questioning, some fans appear to think he can do no wrong because he has a difficult job ?
Explaining financial constraints to the media and player agents is very different to the “crying” you refer to. Nothing wrong with criticism but it should be based on facts and not something made-up.
Same difference whichever way you want to word it, hiding behind the issues.
Criticism is based on facts, the tactics and team selection are not working fact !
They were working for 78 minutes… until certain players clocked off. If we’d hung on for that last 12 minutes, I doubt it would be such a big issue.
Although progressing in the league is the priority a run in the cup competitions could produce some much needed cash flow for the club.
Agree mark… it’s now all about finding the scoring touch. Personally, I’d ditch the 3-5-2, at least for tonight. For reasons other than selection problems, Yeovil might be expecting the 3-5-2 and will probably have prepared for it since the last time. Let’s surprise them and go 4-5-1… with Matt Green up front, with 2 behind (perhaps Sinnie and Allan.)
Unless Elliott is utilised on the left, I think it could be young Koby Arthur out there, as against Plymouth. I just hope that this time, the rest of the team don’t mistake him for Nicola Zigic. I lost count of the passes that were aimed at head height. Let’s have it to feet eh lads? Give the lad a chance.
2-1 Blues
We all know what Blues are like and anyone who expects us to win there tonight is deluded….it will be 3 or 4 nil to Yeovil. Losing 3 out of 4 league games inc 2 at home is relegation form, we’ve seen it all before….
Well, we’ll know by about 9.45 tonight.
would just like to add that a cup run could also have a galvanising effect on our league fortunes, as for Clark I really do think he will come good in the end, we could have gotten results in each of the games we have lost – all against top teams, not bad for a new team with a new formation.
We wont pull up any trees in this division but I do trust that we have enough about us for us to survive for another year in the champs
Win tonight , & then get a home draw against Man Utd, Vile, Chelsea etc
& you lift the club & supporters.
Lose tonight & more doom gloom & despondency..
The Burke fiasco is typical Clark ..totally out of his depth when managing senior players..
You never know… perhaps Clark is trying to keep Burke on a low profile until after the window closes. lol
That is a good point. Also why Reilly and Doyle have been left out
Come on Bluenoses. Whatever system LC is using it is an attempt at using the troops he has available without resorting to kick and rush tactics which would be fatal against the experienced teams in this division. We are losing by small margins only which shows the team are not too far off and this must encourage the young squad. KRO
Good and positive. I like it.
Lee Clark is in an unusual position, he can basically do what he likes as he has absolutely no one to answer to
To thine ownself be true ……….
100% correct Lee
But he should be answerable to the fans
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23836019
What a waste.
totally agree mate i love watching caddis maybe our paths will across again who’s know……..a loan deal could have been done but Swindon wanted the sell him……
with this new team team clark gave 10 debuts??? not 1 but 10 debuts!!! so give the guy break.
Just sat having a read through 200% logs, pannu was paid over £1m pounds in 1 year, truly shocking considering he has done nothing other than a bad job, plus it appears it was his ‘secret’ payments which no one knew about for three years that have probably been the reason for all the delays with accounts, he’s basically yeungs brother in law and now no one knows where he is, shocking how this can be allowed to happen
Lee – all as reported (and indeed reported first) here and on the Birmingham Mail…
Have to say mate the work and effort you guys have put in has been quality, if it weren’t for your efforts that vile thing would be happily continuing bleeding the club dry painting his rosy pictures, we couldn’t actually have a worse person ‘running ‘ the ship if we tried, truly shocking bud
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Was nothing backhanded about my compliment towards you, think you need to chill out a bit, your work has been completely faultless and without it, like I said, pannu would not have had to explain why he’s taking so much money from a cash strapped organisation, infact id say youve been f*cking awesome dude, you really need to accept a compliment when your given one, jeez…….
Apologies Lee.
I retract my former remark.
im a 100% supporter so far having gone to all 5 games this season and so if i want to criticise
lee i will and is formation stinks and some of his subs have been bewildering but hes got to be
given the chance even if another owner comes in to get it right, why burke comes of the bench
and not starts is mind bogling, ditch the 3-5-2 permanently not just for the yeovil game and play
4 at the back, were loosing by the odd goal but were still LOOSING so come on lee and change
it NOW. KRO.
To say Clark can do no wrong is just talking bollox. He made plenty of mistakes last season, but learned from most of them by the end of the season.
This season, he’s trying something different. 3-5-2. I hate it, but it’s too early to say it’s a mistake yet. The players, when interviewed said they like it and are getting used to it. Time will tell if it’s a mistake.
As for Burke… he’s played his best when coming off the bench. The only game he started, against Plymouth, he was poor. He’s ok in 4-4-2, or maybe a 4-3-3, but in a 3-5-2, I don’t think so. But to change a whole formation/philosophy just to accommodate one player (who may or may not have a good game) is ridiculous. But time will tell.
Without Hancox, Murphy and Ferguson, Robinson has to play on the left and he hasn’t the legs for a wingback, so will have to play orthodox left back. So a flat back four.
This will change everything, and it might not be for the worse….
You’d hope he’d switch to a 4-4-2 or a 4-5-1
i agree staffs, rather have him than eardley anyday but we aint got the money so not a lot
we can do, total farce.KRO.
Burke usually plays better in an orthodox 4-4-2, with the full back supporting (i.e. Carr, Caddis) If he doesn’t have the right player behind him, he doesn’t do so well. Burke’s form picked up last season when we brought in Caddis. Up until then, he was abysmal. Whether he could forge a partnership with Eardley remains to be seen.
I was a fan of Eardley when he was at Blackpool… but I have to say, I’ve been disappointed with him so far this season. He’s ok going forward, but defensively, he’s been found wanting on numerous occasions. And he turns like a battleship. Maybe the 3-5-2 isn’t helping, because he’s certainly no wingback.
As I’ve said before, he needs to play on a regular basis with Burke. He can’t play in defence & attack on his own.
He’s defintely not an Anya.
If everyone is fit and ready for selection… I’d pick Eardley/Burke and Hancox/Ferguson as the wide partnerships. I’d only change that with injury or suspension. You’re right, players only get an understanding by playing regularly together.
… added to that, you could see in the Plymouth game, that neither player had a real understanding of each other’s play. Unlike Caddis/Burke and Carr/Burke before them.
If chris burke cant get into a team that loses every week there must be something mentally wrong with lee clark and i am not taking the mick out of mental illness to me it seems that lee clarke is not big enough to admit his mistakes or shortcomings and what are his assistants doing get them off the wage bill because they dont seem to do anything you never see them get off the bench match days
What the games not important to win?
Are you delusional?
You certainly cannot be in business for yourself otherwise you would notice we are short of cash.
We need to win and draw Man U away.
We need the money.
i wouldnt change the formation to suit burke staffs, id change the formation to suit the other 10
players on the pitch, were to light at the back and its not suiting the names hes picking,all the
fans i speak to who go week in week out want it dropped but as we all know lees the
manager not us so he will live with the criticism untill it comes right or goes completley.KRO.
I’m with everyone else. I want rid of the 3-5-2. I hate it…. and I hated it when it was called the Sweeper System way back in nineteen hundred and frozen to death.
But, until it’s proved conclusively that it doesn’t work, we’ll just have to go with it. For now.
I think the problem is the personnel. We have too many ball players, who have no concept of the art of defending without the ball. Too many glory hunters if you like. We don’t have too many who do the nitty gritty, like the Savages, the Bowyers and the like. That’s what’s letting this system down.
I’m boring myself now saying the same thing over and over. lol
When we have Murphy, Hancox, Ferguson and Bell (all fit) on the left flank and Bartley, Burn, Packwood and Spector (and maybe Mullins) all fit, in the centre back positions, will there still be room for Robbo in the team? Why not switch him to the holding midfield position? He admitted himself, he’d like to play there and what better position for the captain, than the axis of the team? Just a thought.
we agree staffs, as i said its not the system its the personnel , im sick and tired off saying over
and over again we havent got the players to play it…… so please lee stop playing it for the sake
off results and the sanity off all off us.KRO.
I’m definitely with you on that one.
Only thing that worries me (again) even in a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1, is the fact that we’ll still be soft down the middle. Whichever formation we play, that won’t change. Same players, same problem. No real balls for the defensive part of the game.
3-5-2 is not working we all know this and most of us said so at the start ,our players are not suited to it.
It has to be 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 , I have made a pact with myself not to be so harsh on Lee Clark, but it is very difficult I must admit. He has eyes he can see, he must realise it is losing us games but he just grinds on regardless its as if he is trying to prove a point..
I am of the opinion we do have the players with the ability to finish mid table in this division,( but we wont) just as we had the players to finish top six last year.
Before the season began I said Clark had the safest job in the country because 1 we cant afford to sack him and 2 there are many people who will say well what do you expect him to do with that side? well he could take us to the conference and some people would not critisise him ,oooops there Iv done it again
The general concensus seems to be that we do not have the suitable players to adopt the 3,5,2. formation, As we are not able to recruit players suitable for it, — Surely we should adopt a different formation for now, ?.
If we do play a flat back 4, tonight, That should give us and L,C, some guidance, !!.
A lot of negative comments yet again, it takes time for new players and systems to gel.
We did not have many pre-season games with a complete squad, and we had some injuries too.
I have been to all Blues games so far this season and I am still happy with the commitment shown by the youngsters to date, naivety in defending for 90 minutes has been the main downfall and caught out of position with no cover (Re Kings goal Saturday). In general, our performances have not been too bad, we have been hitting the bar and forcing saves, maybe a lack of experience, confidence or composure has stopped opportunities becoming goals. We have to get behind what we have because we cannot afford to change anything or anyone until the ownership issues are decided.
Maybe Burke would be more suited in a 4-3-3 system but I do not think we want to revert to 4-5-1 unless we are in a winning position and need to see the game out.
The Yeovil game is a chance for LC to experiment, yes, we need money and a win followed by a decent money-spinning draw would help our finance, however, survival in the Championship has to be our No.1 target.
From reports and gossip, I feel that administration is only just around the corner before any new owners show their hands.
Like I said… it’s only 4 games gone. I don’t think 3-5-2 is working, I don’t think 3-5-2 will ever work…. but it is only 4 games, with a new system and a practically a new squad. If it did click and we started winning regularly, what would people say then? Change to 4-4-2?
It’s not a case of not criticising the manager, for me, it’s a case of giving him and the players a fair go. If, after 7 or 8 games, we’re still losing, then I for one would criticise the manager and the system. 100%.
So we are all in agreement then, tactics,formation and team selection is not working.
Time for LC to stand up and sort it out !
Time for the some fans to stop make excuses for him !
The pattern last year was just when you thought we were awful, we pulled a decent result out of the bag — and vice versa. So going on that evidence, you can expect a decent 3-1 win.
As I said, if we’re still losing after 7 or 8 games… I’ll have a rethink. But I’m willing to give them a go until then.
Fair comment staffs, lets hope were not bottom of the league by then, and under massvie pressure to start getting results and confidence blown to bits ?
I agree on the importance theme and I believe this is a chance to try something different.
With respect to Chris Burke I will reserve judgement until the end of the season that is assuming he is still here.
you could argue that weve lost 3 games all by the odd goal amd to teams that were in the
playoffs last season but if we had played a back 4 i think we would have more points
than weve got. The midfield is not what weve had in the past, a savage,a bowyer, a ferguson
but we need 4 at the back to protect what weve got now not 2 wide backs. another out and
out striker before the deadline is a must but what will we get for nothing? KRO.
I have to admit, I’m a traditionalist. I like 4-4-2, or 4-1-3-2. I never see the point in other formations, because, if all your players do their jobs, there’s no need to change.
I think, Clark looked at our goals against from last season and tried to find a system that would keep the goals down. Although it’s worked to a certain extent, it’s also worked at the other end. Where last season, we could be relied upon to score 2 or 3 in a game, the defence often let us down. This season, so far, it’s the opposite. The defence have held tight, but the strikers can’t find the net… putting extra pressure on the defence. We need to find a happy medium. Whether that be 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 remains to be seen.
The only thing we have at the moment is optimism good times will return some day. It took us ages to get into the premier league……. we came a long way- unbeatables in 2010 followed by league cup in 2011. Now we’ve gone back to the late 80’s, no money in the club- and an uncertain future which will hopefully be resolved at some stage this season. So, what do we have to be optimistic about- firstly 11 guys regardless of formation or starting line up that are giving the best they can. Supporters who are backing and getting behind the team when the chips are down. A manager who has made mistakes, but is trying to learn and assembling a team who want to play for Birmingham and are competative (at least he cares and is trying his best for us). It is going to be a tough season- but all together and singing from the same hymn sheet can only help those players which step onto the pitch. Here’s hoping for a morale boosting victory tonight which we can build on.
Interesting quote from Lee Clarke in the mail-
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-still-no-money-5786505?
So we have the 2nd lowest wage bill in the championship without Zigics wage. I think people need to really adjust their expectations.
I noticed that one too. It brings it all into perspective, when one player’s wages make so much difference. Like Lee Clark said, he’s not blaming Zigic, because he would have snatched the pen off them to sign that contract too, but it shows the narrow margins we’re having to live with.
My expectations at the start of the season were , if somehow we’re still in the Championship at the end of it , we will have done well..
If I lower my expectations anymore I will have conceded relegation to league one…!!
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-clark-were-working-hard-5791060?
You wont find anyone working harder than clark to resolve these problems.. inclarkwetrust…………
I think that certain players are a bit thick and what the manager is saying just isn’t sinking in, especially our defensive play when we’re not in possession. He’s proved that he has a lot of patience, but when that patience runs out, he’ll drop those players. I expect it to start tonight.
Can anyone else read this article? http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cup-clash-yeovil-now-crunch-5790639
All I can see, are the headline and the picture. Nothing below it. :s
Scrap that. They’ve fianally added the rest.
http://www.bcfc.com/news/article/20130826-barnsley-u21s-4-blues-u21s-1-1015687.aspx
Good to see Will Packwood back. I also noticed that Kalifa Cisse was a trialist. I’m assuming that it’s the same Kalifa Cisse that played for Reading in the premier?
Asked whether it was important to get Burke into the line-up, Lee Clark replied:
“Yes, but Chris has to use that as well. He’s an international footballer . . . can he only play in one system?”
Fair point.
that is a fair point about burke, bur he could play in 3 systems not 1, 4-4-2, 4-4-3, 4-5-1, not
3-5-2( and i keep repeating myself AGAIN) he cut in from the left saturday and scored a
quality goal with his left foot 2 footed, gets crosses in, more potent than anyone else, got
to play, no argument for me.KRO.
ps…sorry i meant 4-3-3 not 4-4-3, dope!
ps… he cut in from the right and scored with his left foot, sorry sgain KRO.
I don’t like 3-5-2, simply because I’m old-fashioned (or just old) and don’t see the need for it. Having said that, I think the main reason it’s not worked so far, is that the players aren’t fully up to speed with it yet, then, when our backs are against the wall, we tend to panic a bit, because we’re not compltely au fait with it.
I would go 4-5-1 for a while, to try and get into some kind of form. By all means, keep working on 3-5-2 in training if they want, until they feel comfortable with it… but play a system now that the players know well.
When fit, I would give this XI a try;
Randolph
Eardley Bartlett Burn Hancox (or Murphy)
Robinson
Burke Spector Allan Ferguson
Green
id play 4-5-1 tonight, but dont ask me to pick the 11, ive given up on that! KRO.
I’m only guessing myself… I do that because it’s fun. lol
But on a serious note, first and foremost, we need some protection at the back end of midfield, so I’d stick either Robinson or Spector there, with the remit of stopping anything coming through the middle. With that extra bit of security, it might give the other players a bit of freedom to play.
If he goes with 3-5-2 again tonight… I won’t be shocked or surprised… but I will be very disappointed.
I’d go 4-3-3 going forward, and 4-5-1 defending… with Burke and (possibly) Arthur dropping back.
Ofiicial at bcfc.com. It’s 4-4-2 and a very interesting line-up. Come on you Blue Boys! KRO!
13. Colin Doyle
2. Neal Eardley, 5. Kyle Bartley, 6. Dan Burn, 4. Paul Robinson (Capt)
7. Chris Burke, 24. Tom Adeyemi, 23. Jonathan Spector, 22. Andrew Shinnie
12. Lee Novak, 25. Matt Green.
Substitutes:
30. Nick Townsend, 8. Hayden Mullins, 10. Darren Ambrose, 15. Wade Elliott, 17. Callum Reilly, 20. Oliver Lee, 26. Scott Allan
Yes its 4-4-2 and an interesting lineup as you say, thats not far off for me
2-1 up half time so far so good
2-1 up half time so far so good
we won we won we are blue we are white we are f**king diamond white………clark out of his depth…we be in division 1 ……….. well listen up we in the next round we got bollox big bollox get in there…………………….pls vilers in home draw
yeovil you are a disgrace……………..unsportsmanlike l got what deserved f88k all
trying to say * you got extremely upset by their bloody antics……..
well done to all those fans who went to yeovil glad you boo the opposition players they are disgrace….
it believe yeovil had done this kind of behavior before…….
bloody hell bartley leading scorer………..
Bloody Hell, Novak actually put the ball in the net!!!
Thought he was going to dribble it wide, lol.
Miracles do happen then?
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/yeovil-town-v-birmingham-city-5766169?
… and what did Lee Clark do as soon as the last penalty went in? Ran straight over to the Blues fans. Bet not one called for his head.
As for Yeovil players… bloody disgrace to the sport. Their manager, got to give him his due, that’s the second time he’s done that and given a team a goal in those circumstances. But, we should have won it in normal time.
Maybe a few players knacxkered for Saturday. Adeyemi was shattered… Burke couldn’t even run by the end.
Shows the commitment the boys are putting in, 110%, well done.
The worrying thing is the number of chances missed by both Novak and Shinnies.
Need to be more clinical with out finishing, but at least we are creating them.
Yeovil were disgraceful with their second goal and not allowing the walk through, but as the rulebook does not make allowances there cannot be many complaints really.
The result is the main thing so let us hope we get a big draw in the next round.
Well done to all who travelled players and supporters alike
KRO
nearly got down to my elbows staffsblue lol novak could had three hat tricks with the amount of chances he had.
blues were all over like a rash…… it made a excellent cup tie…… with a long trip back something for fans to sing about on the journey back……methinks justice was done……….
Chris, mark… I felt so sorry for Novak. He was a hairsbreadth away on numerous aoccasions. That chip over the keeper was just cruel. But he worked like a Trojan and ran about 20 miles I think. Let’s hope getting off the mark (whatever the circumstances) does him good.
Couldn’t agree more, would be more worrying if we were not creating the chances.
Any goal has to be good for moral and confidence, as I said earlier, a little more composure and confidence and the goals will come.
The whole team were trojan’s tonight, nothing wrong with their ethics or work rate, the supporters played a blinder too
KRO
shinnie equally getting of the mark….. it would have been a very cruel night if yeovil had won imo……….it would been massive kick bollox……….
about novak staffsblue absolutely right he works extremely hard for the team, hopefully the weight off his shoulders regarding scoring now…..hopefully he will chill now ….if can convert those chances he getting he would be league leading scorer by now by miles………..
Any other result would have been a travesty.
Couldn’t agree more, it has to give them a lift and release some pressure.
As I said the work rate throughout the team, neigh, the club is there for all to see, at the moment I am not overly worried, we are fairly solid at the back and we are creating more chances this season, we are a new squad with new formations, give it 10 games then see where we are.
Just need to improve on our home form now and get the winning ethos going
KRO
Re: Novak – Bob Latchford was awful when he first made the first team. Missed many simple chances
Man city away……………..looks like blues have win the cup the hard way lol
Novak, put that one away nicely enough last night !
Not seen a dribble like that since Jose Dominguez played for us. :-)
http://www.bcfc.com/news/article/20130828-the-reaction-yeovil-3-2-blues-3-3-1018660.aspx what a night of entertainment i love been a bluenose…………………